Fans customized the Wicked movie poster to more closely match the original Broadway poster.

Original Broadway Poster:

Movie poster:

Some fans, disappointed by the poster, altered it to be closer to the original, moving Grande’s hand and lowering the brim of Erivo’s hat to cover her eyes. The edits prompted Erivo to respond. “This is the wildest, most offensive thing I have seen

“None of this is funny. None of it is cute. It degrades me. It degrades us,” Erivo continued. “The original poster is an ILLUSTRATION. I am a real life human being, who chose to look right down the barrel of the camera to you, the viewer… because, without words we communicate with our eyes.”

So, this seems like a completely reasonable reaction to fans making fan content.

  • scbasteve7@lemm.ee
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    22 days ago

    If it was her decision that her full face should be on display, the backlash should be evidence enough that someone else gets paid to make those decisions, not her.

    The original looks boring. She has absolutely no emotions on her face. There’s no mystique, no ‘wickedness’. Even the composition looks like something a high schooler in Photoshop class would make.

    The edit isn’t perfect either. But at least it pays homage to the original in more than just image. It adds that mystique back, and makes her look more menacing.

    What it truly boils down to is ego. Although the edit is better, and so many people agree on it, it doesn’t show her full face. And she can’t let that go.

    • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techOP
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      22 days ago

      Guaranteed this whole thing came up before that it didn’t match the style. She showed her cards and now makes it sound like she was the one who pushed against matching the original. Now that the fans see it and dislike it (probably like they warned that fans would), she’s mad about it. It really sounds like she pushed for this design so it wouldn’t hide her face and now she’s furious that fans reacted in the exact way that was predicted.

    • Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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      22 days ago

      The edit looks ridiculous, how is it better?

      I’m not mixing this up right?

      The first picture with the red lipstick is the fan made photo?

      where you can’t see half her face?

      that is fucking weird.

      The original looks so much better.

      what are you talking about there’s no emotions on her face?

      in the fan edit they took away half her face!

      this is crazy that people like the fan edit, It’s like if you cut an origami crane in half, drew a smiley face on it with a Sharpie and you were like “yeah that’s better.”

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        22 days ago

        That was never the point. I’m not commenting on if it’s better or not. Her reaction to something a fan made is what we’re all talking about.

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        21 days ago

        The original’s smile communicates much more stuff than the eyes on the face that looks like it’s completely bored.

        Trying to “communicate with her eyes” is exactly what makes the poster bad.

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          21 days ago

          i disagree, but your interpretation of her eyes is your own and completely beside the point, in any case.

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            21 days ago

            It’s not besides the point. It’s in fact the whole point. That’s why there is a fan edit and a response and a backlash to the backlash.

            All of this is the point here. You can’t handwave away the other side cause you don’t agree or want to handle that argument.

            Her eyes look bored and like she’s trying to look serious. Like she’s worried you realized you can smell her last fart.

            • Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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              21 days ago

              “All of this is the point here.”

              no, unless you are responding to somebody else, you are barking up a tree in a completely separate field.

              “You can’t handwave away the other side cause you don’t agree or want to handle that argument.”

              I’ve swatted every insult and argument here so far without breaking a sweat because they have no standing or, like your comments, are completely irrelevant to my comments, what you might want to try reading before responding to.

              what you think of her expression is completely immaterial and irrelevant to any of my comments.

              maybe you think you’re responding to somebody else?

              you can think anything you like about her expression. whatever you like; it sounds like you like farts, so you’re thinking about farts.

              That’s fine, and is completely irrelevant with respect to invalidating her own feelings of erasure.

              that is what I have been addressing, and what most of you have completely whiffed on or shamefully been attacking her for.

              I don’t care how people see the poster, I care that people are not respecting her feelings at being erased from her own artwork.

              it doesn’t matter what you think of the artwork in the slightest.

              it matters that you’re disrespecting someone for expressing themselves, bullying someone because they are being sincere.

              you’re dehumanizing them because what they say makes you uncomfortable.

                • Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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                  21 days ago

                  what do you need help with understanding here?

                  you need an example of someone that made “bad” art, you mean?

              • 5in1k@lemm.ee
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                21 days ago

                Her own artwork…. Movies are collaborations. She it a tiny but important part of the artwork not the entirety. Shit she’s like the sixth person playing the role. She created not much.

                • Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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                  21 days ago

                  “She it a tiny but important part of the artwork…”

                  yes. and look how furious and contemptuous it has still made you that she has an opinion about her own work.

                  you claim she’s so unimportant, so why is it that she deserves so much contempt and abuse from a dozen strangers in one post simply for expressing her opinion, without demanding change or attacking anyone.

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              21 days ago

              ooh good question.

              she has a very deliberate stare and a relaxed face, so it looks like she’s hearing something she doesn’t like that concerns her and she’s deciding what to do about it.

              I also see something vulnerable in there, since the muscles around her eyes aren’t very tense, but still a very earnest look.

              hoping for understanding, with a little resignation to do what must be done.

              she’s nailing it with respect to her role, now that you bring it up.

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                  21 days ago

                  I thought the resting face was supposed to be aggressive or bitchy?

                  she doesn’t really have those qualities in this expression.

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    22 days ago

    The ego and vanity is astounding. And the movie poster sucks because she’s looking straight at the camera.

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    22 days ago

    Imo the fan one is better. They should have done the red lipstick with a smirk rather than green and looking bored.

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    21 days ago

    If that’s the most offensive thing they have seen they live a charmed life.

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    22 days ago

    Yeah unless there’s any black women who want to educate us on the reality that black women have been historically had their eyes erased or something, this is just fucking weird.

    They didn’t even like try to edit her to make her “more white” or something, like in terms of her facial features.

    Sometimes people are seriously just oversensitive and looking for enemies where there are none.

    • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techOP
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      22 days ago

      As a white person I’m definitely not the one to say if that’s bad or not - but yeah that would be 100% a teaching moment - because I am not aware of anything like that. Instead of slamming down the hammer of “most offensive thing I’ve ever seen” for what I can only see as a fan poster that’s mimicing one that already exists she could have said something like “I understand why they did this, but here is why I disagree with it”. Personally as a fan of wicked, I was disappointed by the poster. Not enough to make my own, but the original poster was iconic to me.

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      22 days ago

      How specifically similar to this instance does the erasure of Black women need to be? Yes, Black women are dehumanized all the time. It’s common for movies to turn Black people into animals and objectify Black women in any number of ways.

      That is what is offensive about the fan edit. In the original movie poster she is a person. Her eyes are meant to connect with the viewer. The fan edit specifically takes that away from her.

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    22 days ago

    In the original Broadway poster and the fan edit, it looks like they’re up to something–there’s some mischievousness at play, some wickedness.

    I don’t really know what the full-face one is supposed to convey.

  • Match!!@pawb.social
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    21 days ago

    it’s not like they didn’t know the original poster existed when they made the official poster. they made it a particular way on purpose and the edit doesn’t respect that

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    22 days ago

    I mean that fan poster looks terrible, so I get why she’s pissed.

    fans prefer that poster?

    weirdos.