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        We need reddit active. It’s the final frontier of the internet containment zone.

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        I put a question up yesterday on Reddit and got no engagement with it in like 12 hours. Maybe no one that knows anything is answering questions now. I guess we will see.

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          Maybe no one that knows anything is answering questions now.

          Maybe it will get answered by an ad.

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          Did you try posting it on Lemmy? Wonder how good Lemmy is now when it comes to answering very niche or complex questions that old Reddit was good for.

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            No I did not. Financial forum her is kind of dead. Not sure what other tax related forums there are on lemmy. My question was about some specific issues related to getting an incorrect 1095-C. I think I have decided on a cousre of action now but was looking for others thought too.

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      the death spiral is in progress, elon’s just rich so he can pay bills (or let leases go resulting in eviction…) for a while

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      When the “large” voices leave in significant numbers - in the UK it is used wildly by public sector and charity organisations, there are official governmental Twitter accounts, all the broadcasters have accounts.

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        Really wish I could convince local government entities to switch to Mastodon - my local police said it was “subject to O.P.R.A.” and needed to meet retention rules (if you rolled your own…), and the state wildfire commission said they were looking at Threads :/

        So instead, both are still stuck on the platform that requires a login to see posts and filled with nazis.

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          I think Threads federation may actually help with. I’m trying to persuade a health body at the moment to switch from Twitter and to roll their own Mastodon instance, based on the fact that what they really want is the widget on the website, control of their data and the ability to reach people.

          Twitter has already screwed the widget with the login/authentication requirements. If
          Threads actually allows its users to see Mastodon posts, that’s a big old reachable audience.

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        Like when a US President was banned? Was that an example of those “big voices” leaving the platform?

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      So at what point does/did it reach death spiral?

      It isn’t so much a spiral as it is a series of 90 degree turns.

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    At least thats kind of reassuring in a way, that part of it is people dont want to associate with that stuff. (Though I realize that isnt the only reason)

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    With so many options becoming available, increasingly less people will select the platform preferred by Nazis.

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      Speaking of Nazis, are you able to provide any evidence whatsoever of Nazi activity on X?

      Or is it more of a feeling you have?

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          So, basically, if you tolerate the intolerant, the intolerant will eventually wipe out tolerance.

          A more accurate way to say it is, “if you tolerate the intolerant BEING intolerant, intolerance will eventually wipe out tolerance.”

          It does not say you should be intolerant of the intolerant while they’re minding their own business. I just think a bar owner is free to kick people out for representing Nazis purely because it’s their bar and they can do what they want.

          But X’s problem is a bit different from the Nazi Bar problem, in that you don’t really see the Neo Nazis on X sitting there minding their own business. You ONLY see them voicing their intolerance. Which of course, should not be tolerated.

          Tolerate tolerate tolerate. There.

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            Nazism—the attempt to organize the commission of genocide—is an act of violence and must always be responded to as such.

            Nazism is never minding its own business.

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            It does not say you should be intolerant of the intolerant while they’re minding their own business

            it is a fallacy that the intolerant mind their own business. being intolerant is, itself, an active state, not a passive one, and one to be actively resisted. being intolerant involves choice, a choice to be intolerant. there is no “minding one’s own business” in being intolerant, as being intolerant necessarily involves minding the business of others ad then making the choice to react to it hatefully.

            so your argument is, itself, spurious for it is fallacious in its foundation.

            gtfo with your nazi apologism

            The Paradox of Tolerance

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              gtfo with your nazi apologism

              That was so fast, you make me rub my temples in pain, my guy.

              So, people are people, they aren’t their ideals. People have more than one state of mind, they aren’t 2D cardboard cutouts (or drawings of red skull). Life would be easier if they were, I agree, but the world is more complex than that.

              People are born into environments they have no control over. People are handed ideals before they know what they are. People learn from their environment. People change their minds about things. You literally wouldn’t bother commenting right now if you didn’t agree with me.

              If a person is sitting peacefully, let them. If a person is taking any action to impede any other person’s ability to sit peacefully, then stop them. But don’t attack a person who is sitting peacefully, because they’ll probably want to attack you, or someone else, back.

              Now call me a nazi again, and we can agree to disagree. Jfc.

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                That was so fast, you make me rub my temples in pain, my guy.

                Good

                People are born into environments they have no control over

                Nobody is born a Nazi. That is a choice someone makes. And it’s a choice that has consequences.

                If a person is sitting peacefully

                Being a Nazi isn’t “peaceful.” There is no “peaceful” state of being a Nazi. Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain of the United Kingdom taught the world that 1936 when he tried to leave Nazi Germany sitting peacefully alone.

                gtfo with you Nazi apologism

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                  The difference between us is, I want Nazis to renounce their Nazi-ism. You don’t.

                  I don’t believe you’ll always be this way. I believe you can change. Godspeed.

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            A more accurate way to say it is, “if you tolerate the intolerant BEING intolerant, intolerance will eventually wipe out tolerance.”

            If the intolerant could mind their own business and tolerate people they didn’t agree with, they literally wouldn’t be part of the intolerant. That’s the point: it’s a core part of who they are and we have to cut it out like a cancer to have a tolerant society. (Sorry for making you read the T-word so many times.)

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        You have a bar: Nazi comes into your bar, you let him stay, because why not its just a single nazi. Nazi invites friends, those friends invite their friends, and so on. Now you a have nazi bar.

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    At this point Musk has platformed all of the undesirables of the internet. He’s a big, blinking, neon sign that says “there are no adults in the room, do whatever you want.”

    That could be a service to the rest of us. It would be nice if, now that they’re all concentrated there, the internet could quietly agree to shadowban the entire site. Just disappear it from search results, conversation, “zeitgeist.” Let all of the toxic users keep each other busy while the rest of us enjoy a cleaner internet.

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    Yes, this is what happens when you take a big shit in people’s cereal. They tend to leave. I, too, could be an analyst.

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      Yeah telling your advertising megacustomers to go F… themselves on TV and naming them explicitly. Wow. That’s some kind of nasty.

      It totally proved Disney right, too.