174 million daily active users. Wake me up when it’s the same as mastodon.
The elongated muskrat is learning first hand how the Nazi Bar Problem works
excuse me but what the fuck is the nazi bat problem
You have a bar: Nazi comes into your bar, you let him stay, because why not its just a single nazi. Nazi invites friends, those friends invite their friends, and so on. Now you a have nazi bar.
So, basically, if you tolerate the intolerant, the intolerant will eventually wipe out tolerance.
A more accurate way to say it is, “if you tolerate the intolerant BEING intolerant, intolerance will eventually wipe out tolerance.”
It does not say you should be intolerant of the intolerant while they’re minding their own business. I just think a bar owner is free to kick people out for representing Nazis purely because it’s their bar and they can do what they want.
But X’s problem is a bit different from the Nazi Bar problem, in that you don’t really see the Neo Nazis on X sitting there minding their own business. You ONLY see them voicing their intolerance. Which of course, should not be tolerated.
Tolerate tolerate tolerate. There.
A more accurate way to say it is, “if you tolerate the intolerant BEING intolerant, intolerance will eventually wipe out tolerance.”
If the intolerant could mind their own business and tolerate people they didn’t agree with, they literally wouldn’t be part of the intolerant. That’s the point: it’s a core part of who they are and we have to cut it out like a cancer to have a tolerant society. (Sorry for making you read the T-word so many times.)
It does not say you should be intolerant of the intolerant while they’re minding their own business
it is a fallacy that the intolerant mind their own business. being intolerant is, itself, an active state, not a passive one, and one to be actively resisted. being intolerant involves choice, a choice to be intolerant. there is no “minding one’s own business” in being intolerant, as being intolerant necessarily involves minding the business of others ad then making the choice to react to it hatefully.
so your argument is, itself, spurious for it is fallacious in its foundation.
gtfo with your nazi apologism
gtfo with your nazi apologism
That was so fast, you make me rub my temples in pain, my guy.
So, people are people, they aren’t their ideals. People have more than one state of mind, they aren’t 2D cardboard cutouts (or drawings of red skull). Life would be easier if they were, I agree, but the world is more complex than that.
People are born into environments they have no control over. People are handed ideals before they know what they are. People learn from their environment. People change their minds about things. You literally wouldn’t bother commenting right now if you didn’t agree with me.
If a person is sitting peacefully, let them. If a person is taking any action to impede any other person’s ability to sit peacefully, then stop them. But don’t attack a person who is sitting peacefully, because they’ll probably want to attack you, or someone else, back.
Now call me a nazi again, and we can agree to disagree. Jfc.
That was so fast, you make me rub my temples in pain, my guy.
Good
People are born into environments they have no control over
Nobody is born a Nazi. That is a choice someone makes. And it’s a choice that has consequences.
If a person is sitting peacefully
Being a Nazi isn’t “peaceful.” There is no “peaceful” state of being a Nazi. Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain of the United Kingdom taught the world that 1936 when he tried to leave Nazi Germany sitting peacefully alone.
gtfo with you Nazi apologism
The difference between us is, I want Nazis to renounce their Nazi-ism. You don’t.
I don’t believe you’ll always be this way. I believe you can change. Godspeed.
Nazism—the attempt to organize the commission of genocide—is an act of violence and must always be responded to as such.
Nazism is never minding its own business.
excuse me but what the fuck is the nazi bat problem
When you find a nazi but you can’t find a bat.
Speaking of Nazis, are you able to provide any evidence whatsoever of Nazi activity on X?
Or is it more of a feeling you have?
He’s clearly an anti-semite, or at least a sympathers. ‘Nazi’ is getting thrown around a bit too liberally
But Lonnie said they’re doing great? /s
Yes, this is what happens when you take a big shit in people’s cereal. They tend to leave. I, too, could be an analyst.
Yeah telling your advertising megacustomers to go F… themselves on TV and naming them explicitly. Wow. That’s some kind of nasty.
It totally proved Disney right, too.
Twitter is for fascists & their sympathizers.
With so many options becoming available, increasingly less people will select the platform preferred by Nazis.
Actual Nazis aren’t on Twitter, they have their own platforms nowadays.
Twitter is just becoming more and more toxic as its dieing.
The owner is an actual Nazi
You have no idea what a Nazi is and your usage only waters down its meaning.
Incorrect
Racist arsehole yes, Nazi is hyperbole and I’m sick of hyperbole
What do you call 10 people having dinner with a nazi?
11 Nazis
What do you call a room with eleven non-Nazis in it?
Eleven Nazis.
— postmodern language freedom technique
Nah, musk is a Faschistoid but not a nazi.
People who associate with and protect Nazis are also Nazis, imo.
Eh. If you go to that point everyone is one as you just created a spiral of what you define nazi.
Not really.
Yes. By your definition everyone is a nazi.
X will be dead any day now people! Any day now!
Yeah people keep posting these articles and celebrating as if it’s not still a very relevant social media platform. I am concerned it will take so long to “die” that there might actually be time for a revival.
Good.
Well, he says X is a free speech platform when it clearly isn’t. Blud can’t even take a joke.
He drove me back into using RSS after more than a decade for staying up to date. Much better for the mental health. Thankfully, since Wordpress and also some other CMS have the RSS feature enabled by default, many websites have it even if they’re not advertising it.
WordPress powers over 40% of the web, so that’s a very large number of sites/blogs that have RSS. WordPress has sites per category/tag too, so you can subscribe just to a subset of posts. For example, I’m subscribed to TheFlightDeal.com but just for flights from San Francisco (https://www.theflightdeal.com/category/flight-deals/sfo/feed/).
It’s built into Mastodon too
Why use a platform that sounds like porn when you can just use one that is for porn?
Reddit’s also dying
We need reddit active. It’s the final frontier of the internet containment zone.
Its a content farm now, time for it to die
No. We still have 4chan and other places. Reddit needs to die.
What is dieing? Digg is long dead.
I put a question up yesterday on Reddit and got no engagement with it in like 12 hours. Maybe no one that knows anything is answering questions now. I guess we will see.
Maybe no one that knows anything is answering questions now.
Maybe it will get answered by an ad.
Maybe that is why I cannot see the answer. I have ublock origin enabled. :)
Did you try posting it on Lemmy? Wonder how good Lemmy is now when it comes to answering very niche or complex questions that old Reddit was good for.
No I did not. Financial forum her is kind of dead. Not sure what other tax related forums there are on lemmy. My question was about some specific issues related to getting an incorrect 1095-C. I think I have decided on a cousre of action now but was looking for others thought too.
So at what point does/did it reach death spiral?
When the “large” voices leave in significant numbers - in the UK it is used wildly by public sector and charity organisations, there are official governmental Twitter accounts, all the broadcasters have accounts.
Like when a US President was banned? Was that an example of those “big voices” leaving the platform?
Really wish I could convince local government entities to switch to Mastodon - my local police said it was “subject to O.P.R.A.” and needed to meet retention rules (if you rolled your own…), and the state wildfire commission said they were looking at Threads :/
So instead, both are still stuck on the platform that requires a login to see posts and filled with nazis.
I think Threads federation may actually help with. I’m trying to persuade a health body at the moment to switch from Twitter and to roll their own Mastodon instance, based on the fact that what they really want is the widget on the website, control of their data and the ability to reach people.
Twitter has already screwed the widget with the login/authentication requirements. If
Threads actually allows its users to see Mastodon posts, that’s a big old reachable audience.
So at what point does/did it reach death spiral?
It isn’t so much a spiral as it is a series of 90 degree turns.
There’s probably a sociology theory that would apply, but my guess would be a loss of 33% of active users over the course of 6 months.
the death spiral is in progress, elon’s just rich so he can pay bills (or let leases go resulting in eviction…) for a while
It seems Twitter isn’t the only one on the decline trend. Good job, burgerlanders.
Good.
It’s a damn racket when most of the artists I enjoy only post on twatter. Just upload to mastodon too ffs!
Is it really a racket though? Most artists are not tech geeks and desire cultivated feeds instead of … none.
All the artists are in cahoots with Elon Musk!
At least thats kind of reassuring in a way, that part of it is people dont want to associate with that stuff. (Though I realize that isnt the only reason)
