Anyway, Alien: Romulus is the seventh film about these particular monsters. According to the producers, the film takes the franchise ‘back to its roots’. So we get a group of grimy crew-mates piloting a big rust-bucket of a spaceship who pick up an extraterrestrial stowaway and end up having to use their wits and courage to survive as it gobbles them up, one by one.

And it’s not a bad film. It’s nicely creepy, the special effects are good, the acting is perfectly serviceable. In fact, I could give you a normal review of Alien: Romulus, but just writing this is making me feel a little crazy. It’s not a bad film, but it’s also a direct copy of a much better film that already exists. That film is called Alien, and it came out in 1979. It had Sigourney Weaver in it. It hasn’t vanished. If you have a Disney+ subscription or a torrent client, you can watch it tonight. Why have we made it again? What’s the point? Why have we spent the past 45 years – which is longer than I’ve been alive – making seven different versions of the same film? What on Earth is going on?

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    Why have we spent the past 45 years – which is longer than I’ve been alive – making seven different versions of the same film?

    If you watch Alien, Aliens and Alien3 and come out with the idea that they are “different versions of the same film”, maybe the whole movie critic gig thing isn’t for you. Hell, they are not even the same genre.

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      Kinda surprised the author could tell the difference between Alien, Predator, and Aliens v Predator at this point.

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      Alien and aliens are 2 very different take on the same ide (opinions differ on Alien 3), that is not the reviewer claim.

      Their point is that Romulus is a useless remake of a much better original.

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        Alien and aliens are 2 very different take on the same ide

        So are Ghostbusters and the Others.

        What is your fucking point?

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    I haven’t watched the new film yet, but saying that 7 remakes of the first movie have been made is total bullshit.

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    “Covenant” and “Prometheus” would’ve been killer movies to kick off a new IP.

    I might be the old man shouting at clouds, but I’ve been turned off to all franchise “reboots”. Just sick of rehashes and revisits and the cute little “winks” these movies do to the previous installments. Have an original thought, damn.

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      They should make alien movies but not Alien movies. Try something new, leave Alien alone, they fuck it up everytime!

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    Romulus would be better without the callbacks to the first two films. One character in particular I wish was someone else entirely. Also, I didn’t like the ending as it tied into Prometheus/Covenant, my least favourite of the Alien franchise.

    I feel Alien has gone the way of Star Wars which keeps linking to the Skywalker’s. Let Alien break free of the Ripley verse (She’s even in Romulus as a well hidden Easter Egg!) and do something different. The comics have had excellent stories over the years, adapt one of those.

    One of my favourites is Aliens: Labyrinth which is about a crazy scientist on a deep space station who has successfully got the alien species under control. His backstory is quite something and you know it will go wrong in the end.

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    Counterpoint: please make another actually good work in the universe.

    I have my fingers crossed for the HBO (I think) series set to release next year.

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      Also capitalism: We’re threatening a lawsuit for even saying that because we can, and you can’t afford the legal fees

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    reason is that historically and statisticwise, sequels make more money then original movies. so there you have it.

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    saw it, and I went put with the idea that it was an Alien movie whose target audience was young people that didn’t see the first alien movie.

    I still prefer the original first alien movie. Like a lot, but this one is pretty decent. It was like a “netflix remake” with lots of copy/paste from the original movie. Some sentences are exactly copied, some scenes greatly copied and modernized for 2024 eyes.

    The main differences that make the first Alien movie superior (to me at least). In this latest movie there is no “mother sound” in the original Alien the spaceship appear to breathe and live with a constant sound that really put you into the “Alien mood”.

    Sigourney Weaver. Both her role and her acting were incredible. That is just decent in this new movie.

    Critic about megacorps is visible in this new movie, but felt even more terrible in the older one IMHO.

    Still, there are a few things not present in the original movie in this one that are a bit nice. The relation with the androids, some great action scenes. But that’s about it. If you love the alien universe it is a pretty decent Alien. If the first Alien is a 9/10 movie I would give this one a 7/10.

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      I’m always down for more android drama so that’s worth two points itself.

      I also love Weyland-Yutani’s single minded obsession with “the perfect organism” biting them in the ass again and again when they’re already making a superior version of humanity that can colonize space.

      What’s even the profit to be had in turning humanity into xenomorphs or whatever bullshit they’re on? It’s the fatal flaw of corporate bureacracy we’re seeing in real time as our current mega-corps set piles of money on fire on the regular, they’re not even fucking good at capitalism, just at beating down workers who don’t have an alternative.

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        I always thought their goal was to weaponize the xenomorphs?

        But I suppose it’s not meant to be clear. They’re greedy corporations looking to milk as much profit from anything they can find. Good thing corporations aren’t like that in real life ;P

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          I think that’s what Ashe and Burke talked about/implied so most people just rolled with it, it’s not like MIC corruption is a rare theme, but they’ve been working up the human/xenomorph hybrid angle for a while.

          https://screenrant.com/alien-weyland-yutani-xenomorph-goal-hybrid-species-marvel/

          And it does tie a lot of threads together while being honestly a bit more horrifying imo. There’s always been a bit of a background to the movies of “How could Weyland-Yutani be so stupid as to risk a xenomorph outbreak on Earth or a colony” and even “but Marines with guns absolutely slaughtered them so it’s not even that good of a weapon” that this motivation addresses far more readily.