• Empricorn@feddit.nl
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    8 months ago

    Republicans: “We’d win a 2nd civil war, we have all the guns!”

    Bitch, do you think your civilian small-arms could stand against the full military might of the federal government!? Not even saying it’s a good thing…

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        The Taliban had the advantage of logistics. Which we all know is important in war according to Sun Tzu.

        It will be a whole lot different when they can fight on their own home turf, which they have been fortifying since whenever they arrived.

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        On their own turf the USA has all the maps of everything including of what’s underground, they already have records of who are the potential insurrectionists, where they live, what they drive, who their families are and they also have the support of a huge part of the population.

        Oh and good luck to the guys who own machine guns and hunting rifles when facing drones flying high enough that you can’t see them with your naked eye.

        It would have nothing to do with Afghanistan.

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        The guys half way across the world from the US army, where the only thing at stake was a country they’d bombed to shit previously?

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          Which is exactly why the US isn’t going to carpet bomb their own territory. One, ruling over a rubble-laden wasteland isn’t very appealing. Destroying your own infrastructure isn’t good for GDP. Two, soldiers are going to have a lot harder time bombing their own homeland, regardless of how well trained they are.

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              So then the citizenry and army would be fighting on equal footing then and the “we have all the guns here in Texas” argument goes back to making sense. Either the US uses their overwhelming military power or not, you can’t choose both.

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                  I’m saying that if you rely on having F-16 fighter jets and drones dropping bombs, you’re arguing for wholesale destruction. If you don’t rely on fighter jets and bombing raids, that means you’re fighting a ground war against insurgents that are more or less equally armed, assuming they have weapons like AR-15s.

                  My point is that cruise missiles don’t solve every problem; namely armed local insurgencies. What kind of third use-of-force scenario are you imagining?

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      Historically yes, an uprising of civilians has a great chance at asymmetrical warfare on their own turf.

      You can’t destroy your own infrastructure like you can someone else’s.

      Will they win? Almost certainly not.

      Can they force some concessions? Probably

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        These aren’t the Taliban. These are a bunch of obese losers with handguns. They have nothing once McDonalds pull out.

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        They wouldn’t stand a chance. They’re power grid is so brittle. The US military would destroy it probably within minutes of an actual war being started. The people who can’t stand the heat or the cold (depending on the time of year) would turn on them so quickly.

        Just like the south in the civil war, they don’t have the infrastructure for the logistics needed to fight a war.

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    8 months ago

    They kind of selling it though, looking at these tools makes you think perhaps it is a good idea for them to SECDEE the fuck off?

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    8 months ago

    Dude at the end looking at his two e’s like he put them in the wrong order. Just priceless.

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    8 months ago

    Love how they get a random black guy/gal involved, like they wouldn’t be decorating the nearest tree if these fuckers got their way.