In the interest of clearing up this continuing deluge of misinformation, I think cowboy at the end of his stream today said it better than I did earlier today. Plus he is likely to know more than anyone here as he had completed both endings before release with his advanced copy.
how did we end up in a reality where people are actively defending a 70$ release priced game that is single player AND has micro-transactions. A game like this should be thrown into the garbage and everyone should be unified on that. Like it being single player ALONE should make it so it doesn’t have MT’s but it has both SP and a 70$ price point?
I am a FIRM believer that a quality product will net you more sales than any cheap tricks will and if you really come out with a banger then you always have the option to add a MEANINGFUL DLC addition down the line, instead of content you made at the same time you made the base game and just decided to wall off and “release” later.
How many hours do you have in game? Had you played you would know that nothing available is “walled off”. It is actually the opposite, and the stuff is basically useless to buy since you can acquire all of it through a normal play through of the game. No place in the game do you even feel like “oh man, I really need to buy that DLC or else this part is going to be impossible/different/less than/etc.”.
And it’s clear the people getting everyone all riled up about this stuff did not play the game either (or are acting in bad faith).
I refunded it because it ran like shit. This just makes me even sadder.
Y’all still preordering video games? I thought we had talked about this.
Worse. Not sure about micro transactions but the dlc was released on day 2 with no prior information or heads up. Truly scum of earth behaviour.
The “DLC” was available before release day and is just the stuff from the deluxe version but separated out so you can buy just the stuff you want. It has been all right on the store page (not hidden) for everyone to read this whole time. This made up story is from a reviewer that upon completing the game on their advanced FREE copy noticed the dev didn’t give them the version with the other camping kit and created this whole fake outrage.
I am taking about someone else on Lemmy who shared his experience, not a reviewer. I don’t buy games on release anyway so I don’t know the exact details. But if you’re trying to downplay this whole shit show then don’t, it is very much deserved.
How can you admit you:
- haven’t even played the game
- know nothing about the facts
And then claim
But if you’re trying to downplay this whole shit show then don’t, it is very much deserved.
Why is it deserved? Because “someone else on Lemmy” said so? Someone that didn’t read what they were buying and is going along with a clickbait article by a reviewer that had his feelings hurt because the devs didn’t give him the deluxe edition, and instead he only got the standard well in advance of launch? He could have righted his whole “injustice” with a $3 purchase for his stupid camp kit (for a $70 he didn’t pay for), but instead he wrote a whole piece on how he didn’t read anything before completing the game (he didn’t pay for pre-launch).
Capcom would kill you if they thought it profitable. Don’t feel a need to defend these guys.
Mate give it a rest, stop simping for bad business practices.
This is exactly like any other version of a game that comes out with more than one SKU (bonus items). Only this time the guy that got it for FREE in advance wrote about how he didn’t understand he wasn’t getting bonus items. He then writes a hit piece stating even though he didn’t read, he should be entitled to those items because he didn’t know about them, even though he didn’t read (and his copy was in advance of release and FREE). It’s basically a story of entitlement, and how a reviewer has created a non-story over his.
I don’t care about what excuses you want to make for this bullshit. Stop defending these anti-consumerist practices, you are not the company, you do not benefit from them making millions from selling lazy arse DLC that is just basic game features paywalled off.
Oh so I have to buy the garbage just to criticise it? Absolutely not. And why did you assume that I know nothing about the game when my wording was “exact details” in reference to me getting the DLC dates wrong. So you’re also defending the bait and switch that some reviewers can get a copy with no garbage but they are added in the game at release. Doesn’t matter if it is done for all or just a few but it happened so stop defending assholes. All that does is give an OK to assholes to keep assholing. We already have too many who give into garbage like this and promote this behaviour so if you understand them at least don’t promote it.
Can you read? Serious question. There was no “bait and switch” for anyone. Nobody was sold anything and then given something else. And the reviewer in question would have known exactly what they were getting, and what was available, but stated in the article they didn’t READ anything before completing the game. Then they put out a click-bait article and everyone is coming out with pitchforks because some dude that played for FREE didn’t get the version he wanted pre-release. That to me reaks of entitlement, and a pretty “asshole” thing to create a hit piece about a game he enjoyed otherwise but is salty he didn’t get a different version with a couple extras to play well in advance of release.
And for the record, I am not OK with entitled assholes like that.
Can you read? Serious question. I am not taking about this reviewer as I already mentioned. They weren’t the only one, there are multiple which are probably like 100 reviewers who played this game before release and very few made a mention about the micro transactions and some were also a little surprised about it. Your intent doesn’t matter if you can’t show it well, whatever you’re posting definitely looks like you don’t mind this behaviour and were should stop criticising it. It is 110% fine to criticise something you love, if you don’t then you’re biased and your opinion won’t be taken seriously. Also you don’t have to defend a shitty corpo decision if that’s what you’re doing, definitely seems like it anyway.
It’s pretty clear that many people here have not even looked at the Steam store page, and are instead falling for the bait for clicks and drama from a reviewer that didn’t read, and is big sad he only got to complete the standard version pre-launch. This whole thing is manufactured drama over something that was right on the Steam page since day one. You want the stuff the guy cried about in the article, buy the Deluxe addition. Is $10 to much extra, OK, then buy the individual pieces of the deluxe addition extras you want and stop with this fake outrage for a game you most likely didn’t even buy/play anyway.
This is all much to do about nothing. It’s all stuff you get in the deluxe addition and right underneath says - “Items in this set can also be purchased separately. Please be aware of duplicate purchases.” This sounds like people trying to find a problem where none exists.
The Deluxe Edition includes the base game and the add-on “A Boon for Adventurers - New Journey Pack”.
A Boon for Adventurers - New Journey Pack:
- Explorer’s Camping Kit - Camping Gear
- Dragon’s Dogma Music & Sound Collection - Custom Sounds
- Harpysnare Smoke Beacons - Harpy Lure Item
- Heartfelt Pendant - A Thoughtful Gift
- Ambivalent Rift Incense - Change Pawn Inclinations
- Makeshift Gaol Key - Escape from gaol!
- Art of Metamorphosis - Character Editor
- Wakestone - Restore the dead to life! (A)
- 1500 Rift Crystals - Points to Spend Beyond the Rift (A)
Missing a /s?
Maybe I’m missing the obvious sarcasm, but why in the hell does a deluxe versions exist? You done screwed up your game if the game play is so tedious I want to pay for in game credits (rift crystals) instead of earn them. Hey they put in time sucks so bad your going to want to pay to make them go away instead of play the game.You’re 🤦♂️
Why does any game have a deluxe addition? It usually includes more stuff up front. Did nobody read what they were paying for? It’s in plain English right on the store page.
Also seems like a bunch of people who didn’t even buy the game getting all fired up over some manufactured drama from a reviewer who didn’t read what he was getting for FREE. And now he’s all worked up because he didn’t get the deluxe addition for free and needs to pay $2.99 for the dumb camp kit or to buy a portcrystal or rift crystals or whatever.
You don’t have a problem with the game having purchasable fast travel and locking a character editor behind the pay wall?
How and why companies do this, I don’t understand. Way to kill what would’ve been a great game
Money. Even if 5 people scream and get a refund or don’t buy it there will be 100 that don’t care and just pay. It’s the same with every bad thing like preorder, dlc after dlc, microtransactions for cosmetics more expensive than an full title indie game or pay to win in a full price triple a game (like star wars battlefront 2). In the end the group of people just buying is bigger.
For all those continuing to spread misinformation…
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Tbh, I kinda get both sides here. The precedent thats unfolding, not even being set, since this isnt the first game to do so, is bad enough to stain the game and be worth being pissed about. But also, since the entire game can be enjoyed ignoring the DLC even exists, its a fun enough game in a slightly more niche category that its also worth ignoring the precedent
For all continuing to spread misinformation…
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I don’t care if they’re for stuff that easily obtainable, I don’t care that all of the other capcom games have been doing it too, I don’t care that its a fun game. $70 and having ANY MTX is bullshit.
Honest question since you have clearly played the game for a number of hours. How did the micro-transactions that you needed to go out of your way to even find, and are worthless after having actually played through the game, effect your game play? Was it because nothing in game is affected by them? Or was it that CAPCOM does nothing to push you towards them?
It was the fact that apparently nobody even knew they were their until somebody went out of their way to discover them that has affected my game play so much! How dare they put these useless items available for real dollars that only a fool would buy, and then after doing so only to find out they are useless. It has basically ruined my whole world, I may never game again! The horror! /s
that you needed to go out of your way to even find
CAPCOM does nothing to push you towards them
Hey Tim, go ahead and open up the game’s page on any storefront and try to find the system requirements before you see the DLC.
People aren’t saying that the items are useful. It would be even worse if they were. The decision to sell microtransactions in a single player RPG, regardless of how useful the things you get for them are, is inherently scummy. It’s worth calling it out regardless of how useless the items are.
The full list of all available dlc is easily seen on the steam store page before you even buy it. The rest was covered well by another poster.
Out of the 25 English language reviews of Dragon’s Dogma 2‘s PC version on Metacritic, only two mention the microtransactions.
What the fuck.
