Seriously, these guys are straight up tankies with nothing worthwhile to contribute. Can we defederate them and isolate their BS?
Seriously, these guys are straight up tankies with nothing worthwhile to contribute. Can we defederate them and isolate their BS?
We should have stronger standards for federation that just not hosting child porn. Obviously that should be prevented from coming in, but we can do better than just keeping the bar that low.
You need a much better reason than I don’t like this thing for defederation.
Minimizing propaganda spoonfed from the Russian aggressor state is pretty damn good reason.
Why restrict what others on the instance can sub to? As long as they’re not harassing people, users who don’t want to engage can just block them. It’s a non-issue.
It’s hardly a non-issue, they’re peddling bile fed to them by the Russian state, it has no place here. Let the communities that are decent migrate somewhere else, we should be doing our part to isolate their rhetoric.
Nah, I just ignore them and move on. Sometimes I get around to blocking some if they’re annoying enough.
Lemmy.ml is a big instance, so defederation is throwing the baby out with the bath water.
Where are you even coming across this? It doesn’t even hit my all feed. And I browse new on the regular.
Edit: more so asking about .ml cuz I defederated from hexbear a long time ago. Hexbear isn’t anything but trolls. They’ll morph into whatever’s going to make you mad at the time.
Comments and posts expressing sentiments like this seem to have quite a strong showing there.
Yes, that one user is quite annoying because they make things sound well researched, when they frequently aren’t. I’ve seen that user around, and I just don’t engage with them anymore.
But the rest of the instance isn’t like that. Yeah, there are some tankies and whatnot there, so I’m hesitant to sub to anything political on that instance, but most of the rest of their users are totally fine. Their users don’t typically attack other users, so you’re only really affected if you choose to engage, and you can stop at any point.
So that’s why I disagree with defederation. If a user on their instance harasses you, report it. If the admins of that instance do nothing, report it to admins here. If there’s a pattern of their admins allowing harassment, we should defederate.
But having stupid ideas isn’t grounds for defederation imo.
What does downvoted political commentary do to anyone?
What do you mean? This is the kind of Russian propaganda we should be isolating, and its spread and acceptance on lemmy.ml should be reason enough to defederate.
I don’t know enough about any of it to care about any of it. I just don’t understand how this mindless communication on the internet that doesn’t spark any change in the real world matters. This goes for all political keyboard warriors.
If you don’t see a problem with allowing open channels for Russian propaganda, I can’t make it any clearer to you.