Owlcat Games knows not to expect Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader to be as successful as Baldur’s Gate 3

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    11 months ago

    Meanwhile, games that do have huge teams and budgets like starfield and Diablo4 kind of suck. It’s not just about resources.

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    11 months ago

    Is Larian considered a massive studio? On Wikipedia is says Larian is 450 people and on LinkedIn it says Owlcat is 201. I assume that Larian didn’t have everyone working on BG3 given their other efforts, so isn’t the total headcount not that far apart?

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      11 months ago

      It’s just another round of excuses for the lackluster state of modern RPGs, and I don’t even think BG3 is that good, it’s just that the bar is so fucking low that something decent like BG3 gets touted as the best RPG in years, because in truth it sadly is.

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        11 months ago

        To call it “decent” is so disrespectful to the complexity of BG3. Hardly anything else even comes close to the scale of BG3, let alone any game fully voiced, in terms of decisions, outcomes, dialogs, and campaign paths of BG3. I’m 70 hours into my first playthrough and still likely have another 10-20 hours left of act 3. And all of those hours have felt impactful and engaging; none of that filler garbage you see in other games this size like AC or starfield.

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          11 months ago

          Eh.

          Nowhere near as good as the old Bioware and Black Isle CRPGs, and if it’s going to call itself Baldur’s Gate then I’m going to hold it to those standards like it or not. It’s a fine game, but it’s ridiculously and disproportionately overrated by both the media and players alike, especially when it looks, plays and feels nothing like the original games that it claims to be a sequel to.

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            11 months ago

            There’s almost no way you have played BG3 or you’re just being contrarian. I love the old bioware and black isle and crpgs, BG3 absolutely stacks up to 1/2.

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              11 months ago

              No, I’ve played it alright, just didn’t finish it. If anything it’s you who probably never played Baldur’s Gate 1 and 2 or, in fact, none of the CRPGs of old, because if you did you’d likely agree with me instead of calling me a contrarian.

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        11 months ago

        This is my hot take as well. BG3 isn’t good, everything else calling itself an RPG is complete dogshit.

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        11 months ago

        Yeah, this sums up really well. BG3 still have many flaws and flow issue but because of the shit other publishers did pushed our “good game” bar so far below it’s actually not hard to have a passion project that come out ahead.

        I haven’t played GoW:R Valhalla yet but that’s also something they put together while financially successful without putting a price tag on it. I don’t mind if SantaMonica put a price on it and than ask for more money, but their decision to keep GoW series DLC/MTX free just keep me on board for their future launch window sale.(and I am willing to fork out extra for digital deluxe. I might do a pre-order like 1 day before next time to get the pre-order limited stuff, which turns out pretty decent in GoW:R, not necessary, but decent gear. ) I am still upset about Sony’s PSN Plus price hike and no save back ups, but I will keep supporting the developers I love.

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    11 months ago

    I honestly prefer the rules and fight mechanics of their pathfinder games over BG3, and would argue they’re better RPG games, just not as visually pleasing thanks to unity. But hopefully they feel inspired when it comes to fleshing out their gameplay interactivity and NPCs. Even the main villains and your companions aren’t fully voiced in their games.

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    11 months ago

    Also most people won’t play past the first act. The first act was well worth the price of admission, and now I just kind of want it to be over.

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    11 months ago

    The Owlcat Games lead doesn’t point to any one specific asset, but given the broader tone of the interview-fueled article, it can fairly safely be assumed that he’s referring to the collective whole of Larian’s unique access to funding through more than three years of paid Early Access, a veteran team of developers with decades of experience in RPG development, license access, a technical foundation, and probably more factors we aren’t privy to or that I’m not thinking of.

    The irony is that some development companies have access to a large part of those resources and they’ve been fumbling for a number of reasons. Bioware is a prime example, with ME:Andromeda and Anthem pretty much killing them. Blizzard is another, just look at Diablo 4, Overwatch 2 and World of Warcraft.

    Management doing the job they’re actually supposed to (making the vision of the final product clear to everyone, keeping annoying stakeholders off the workers’ back, etc) can make or break many projects. One success case of that is actually No Man’s Sky after release, where Sean Murray dealt with the shitstorm while the team worked on patching the game.