• Xyre@lemmus.org
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      But you were already going to vote, right?

      The problem is that we need a candidate that draws in people that either weren’t going to vote or would vote for someone else instead.

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        i think in this case, it’s not so much that Harris will persuade voters, but more that Harris will energize at least some of the likely dem voters that were leaning towards just staying home on Election Day.

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          I think people are underestimating the enticement of having a woman president for the first time, because Clinton lost the EC. But that doesn’t mean that energy isn’t there, especially after losing Roe.

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        Fair but I think that at this point, most people either already decided to vote for or against Trump. I can’t imagine anyone being on the fence about that megalomaniac.

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          There are other people I would prefer to see as the first woman President, given her history of not being the greatest towards her constituents wishes (I grew up close to Oakland). That said, I’ve been fully expecting her to be, partly because I wasn’t 100% certain Biden would make it, although Mrs. Feinsteinn had recently passed so I was a bit more upset about the age of our politicians at the time.

          In addition to all that, she is a far better alternative than our two current options, if only due to the fact that she may be able to increase voter turnout, even if it’s despite her not-so-great history for policy. I was even hoping that Biden would step down for 2nd term and have her run in his place… You know, to avoid exactly what is happening right now. Like hell, Biden is only 9 years younger than Feinsteinn. Doesn’t he want to actually have some time in retirement, unlike her? Does he just want to die in politics?

          Actually, that probably explains a lot. Do all these politicians just want to die at work? Mitch McConnell is freaking 82.

          Don’t these people have hobbies? Grandchildr- ah who am I kidding, they don’t do their jobs unless it’s to prevent something good from happening. And I bet Mitch McConnel hates his grandchildren. I just have a feeling about it, don’t ask me why.

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            Like hell, Biden is only 9 years younger than Feinsteinn. Doesn’t he want to actually have some time in retirement, unlike her? Does he just want to die in politics?

            I think for Biden it’s personal. He gave years of his life to the US Senate, some of that is time he’ll never get back with his kids.

            His oldest son also served in the military for this country and died.

            Say what you want about Biden, I think the man genuinely cares, and Trump hits him at his core. If it was e.g. a Jeb Bush running, I think Biden wouldn’t have run in 2020 let alone now. I think he wants to retire but he wants to make sure Trump is twice defeated first. He wants Trumpism to die and he feels he’s the best chance we’ve got to stop it.

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              Oh definitely, of all people I think I understand why Biden does it the most. I think you’re pretty spot on, with Biden if not saying this outright himself has definitely alluded to it in some of his comments.

              Even if I don’t agree with it, I can understand it. I just sort of wish he wasn’t being so stubborn about it.

              To another end, I feel like Biden is of the era where he is used to the incumbent President running again. That’s just what we do. Obama did it. Bush Did it. Clinton did it. Reagan did it. Nixon did it. Johnson did it. Eisenhower did it. Truman did it. Roosevelt did it. That is almost every single President from Biden’s lifetime. If I’m not mistaken, there would be 4 Presidents who did not go for/win their second term from 1941 through 2017? Kennedy, Ford, Carter, and H.W. Bush. Kennedy almost certainly would have, unless some of his shenanigans were to come out (seems doubtful).

              I wouldn’t be entirely surprised if part of his whole reasoning was in part also due to it just being what you do as a President. You run again, it’s just what you do?

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      Most people with a heartbeat would be better than the alternative, and maybe a few without.