• Wahots@pawb.social
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    1 month ago

    In a vacuum, it might work. Unfortunately for them, there are decades of quality games that are completely outside of Sony’s grasp. We can wait, lol. I am still waiting for last of us to go on a steep sale. I can wait :)

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    Sony are severely underestimating how many years I’m already behind on big “tentpole releases” (missus).

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    They lost me when they let scalpers buy up all the PS5s in my area. That money went to a gaming PC when those components became available. I was fighting to give them my money and they didn’t give a damn.

    Hard pass, Sony. Should’ve treated your actual customers better.

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    If they want to entice me, they need to:

    • open their platform
    • release interesting form factors
    • provide interesting, unique features

    The Steam Deck did that, and I would happily buy a Sony handheld or something if it offered value.

    But no, they instead want me to buy a locked down system that competes with my existing PC, and their sales pitch is, “buy this or you can’t play these games.” I don’t respond well to threats of FOMO, so I’m not going to buy it. I own a Switch and a Steam Deck because they provide value I can’t get elsewhere, I don’t own a Playstation or an Xbox because they don’t.

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      1 month ago

      When so much is multi-player now, the cross platform stuff sucks on console. Average PC players are gods compared to using a regular controller on console.

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        1 month ago

        If it helps, I mostly got it so I could play fun couch co-op games w/ my kids. We’ve taken it camping, on road trips, etc, and it’s honestly quite good for that.

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          1 month ago

          Nah i mean he blamed Xbox and Playstation but praised Nintendo while in fact Nintendo is as anti-consumer as the others

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            I wrote both things.

            Yes, Nintendo is anti-consumer and way worse in that regard, but they really deliver on the “new ways to play” angle. I just can’t get anything like the local multiplayer experience I get with Nintendo elsewhere, and that’s true for almost all of their history:

            • NES - awesome accessories, like the DuckHunt gun, running pad, etc
            • N64 - local multiplayer games were fantastic, and the controller was interesting
            • Wii - controller made for a very fun casual multiplayer experience
            • Switch - very portable and the joycons are very easy to pass around

            And their handhelds were all the best on the market:

            • gameboy - first and had fantastic battery life, the gameboy color was immensely popular; no competition whatsoever
            • gba - way better gameplay experience vs gameboy, Sega Game Gear had terrible battery life, huge back catalogue with gb compat, so upgrading was a no-brainer
            • Nintendo DS - PSP had better hardware, DS had better battery life, better load times, and just better portability all around; 3DS improved on this

            Nintendo has continually delivered an interesting gaming experience with almost each generation. That’s why they appeal to people despite the anti-consumer behavior they have, and that’s why I buy their systems.

            Valve gets most of my gaming money because they win the rest of my priorities, but Nintendo gets some too. PS5 and Xbox compete in all the ways I don’t care about, Nintendo and Steam compete in the ways I do.

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              i’ve never been a big Nintendo fan, i got the Wii and the Nintendo DS as a child but that’s all. I don’t understand the reason to buy a switch when a Steam Deck can do exactly the same and much more imo, But i got your point.

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                But it can’t. Can you remove the controllers and play with a friend? Can you slip it in a bag, just in case? Can you play on an airplane or road trip without worrying about battery life?

                The Steam Deck is fantastic for single player gaming, which is why I have it. But battery life isn’t great for portability (road trips or flights), and for multiplayer, you basically need to hook it up to a TV and have more controllers.

                I don’t see much point in a Switch Lite except to reuse games from another Switch you have.

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                  Depend if you’re apart pc or console team at first, as a pc user why would i buy a console that only let me play the games of the manufacturer with a obsolete hardware while i could do the same + any games running on pc with the other one ?

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    I’m not pissed at this strategy like typical ones, however I absolutely hate having my collection of a series split across platforms and feel like this isn’t the least common idea. Now, if they were to include the older game in with the new one in this strategy or have some sort of cross buy feature for older titles, but this will never happen.

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    My wife and I happened to buy a PS5 so I played Spider-Man 2 on it, and I played GT7 because that’s just never coming to PC and I can accept that.

    Doesn’t mean I’m not pirating all your games on PC, too, so I can own them forever

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    I feel like the better thing to compete on is “plug it in and it works”, “easier to play on your couch and TV with a controller than a PC” and various comparisons to the other consoles.

    Other than setup and ease of couch gaming, PC has them beat hands down. And it’s only very slightly easier in those dimensions too.

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      Which on the other hand is something many PC gamers and content with. Steam consoles didn’t sell well because the market for PC fixed consoles wasn’t there.

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        Yup. It’s why they’re unlikely to get conversions, but they might get people to do both.

        Consoles compete with PC gaming, but they’re not substitutes. The best they can hope for is people who are relatively indifferent to the advantages a PC has being persuaded by the console advantages, or people who are okay with just having both picking a PS5 over an Xbox or Nintendo.

        For the latter, I think they’d be better served looking for a way to do “but it in one, play it in both” type deals, since that makes the ambivalent people more likely to default to PlayStation, since they still get PC, and the “both” people are more likely to buy sooner, since waiting doesn’t get them anything.

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          Right. We mustn’t forget that many people just have lots of disposable income. Buying several consoles and gaming PCs is just part of their hobby.