100% cigarette reversed into a cupped hand.

Yeah it has. The demo aspect became smaller and smaller and with the advent of internet penetration even the copy side of it dissipated. It wasn’t the same at the end tbh

Still, fond memories of coding, sleeping under the tables, eating junk.

Same as The Party in Aars, Denmark, in the 90s. Every table had a sheet. Cross out the IP you picked. Managed 2000 attendees that way.

Yeah they should have run their own Mastodon server but I can understand they want to reach the Threads audience and until there’s two-way sync Threads it is.

I know. My point remains the same.

Groan. I’m on a mastodon server and a full believer in the free market. Can we not force this left/right conjecture onto server choice too, please?

Don’t be a downer man! Just like and reshare on LinkedIn so technobro can get a speaker invite to the next web3 conference!

The Egg of Columbus does spring to mind, reading your comment.

You believe the fast food companies work in cahoots with the obesity pharma companies?

Well this is what I mean. In the olden days, this would be custom traffic on a custom port. Nowadays it just uses web HTTPS REST calls as API.

It’s hard, but not impossible, to get a personal mail server trusted amongst the big players, agreed.

That doesn’t mean email can’t be accessed with IMAP (or heaven forbid, POP3) on the big players. Outlook, gmail, FastMail, proton etc all support it.

Yes agreed. I suspect it will collapse to “non-time-critical traffic will run on HTTPS via REST” and “everything else will run on UDP, using their own ports”, except for maybe a couple of golden oldies like NTP, FTP, SMTP/POP/IMAP.

Lemmies unite!

Not sure if a serious question. So forgive me if your question was meant to be a statement.

The internet is a large set of computers connected via two protocols: IP and TCP.

There’s 65000-ish ports (channels) available on the internet.

The web runs on port 80 and 443.

The internet supports all sorts of other traffic too: Time synchronisation, games, file transfer, e-mail, remote login, remote desktops etc. None of these run on the web, but is traffic that runs in parallel to the web.

The distinction is getting blurrier as lots of traffic that used to be assigned (or simple chose) its own port number is now encapsulated in HTTP(s) traffic. But the distinction is definitely not gone.

At the end of the day, you’ve got to trust someone. I’m 200% convinced meta mines the social graph, of course they do, and provide access to law enforcement with a pro forma request. But I’m also 199% sure they don’t actually read your messages once unencrypted, reencrypts them and sends them as hidden payloads or does something else with it. The damage, should it be discovered, would be untold.

And while I don’t trust Meta on a lot of things, I know enough people there to realise that if they did that it would leak.

It’s hard for them to find a stable source of funding for the massive size of their org, correct.

But how many developers do you need to create a great browser? They don’t need 1100 people, that’s for sure.

The problem is Mozilla started thinking about itself as a company, with its massive revenue from Google.

It isn’t. Firefox was most alive and most growing when it was still a grassroots initiative to build a better web browser.

When they go back to that - or someone forks and creates a charity with one sole focus (a great browser) I’ll start supporting them. I just don’t think Mozilla needs this size of org to build a better browser and and now they’re trying to do a bunch a crap I’m not interested in to justify their org size. They’ve got it back to front.

And I say this as a lifelong Firefox user.

I suspect Reddit holds a perfect copy of every edit, including the first, you’ve ever done. For legal reasons if nothing else. Now also to prevent against perfectly good AI training content to be deleted.

My wife insists on us having a landline. She doesn’t know she’s running a SIP phone over the internet connected to a SIP trunk that has a local area number. She’s happy. I get to kill our landline.

What I also love about NTP is that its port (123) is open both ways on most networks, even the most locked down ones, so it’s a good place to hide VPN traffic.