How has Israel been in a proxy conflict with Iran since before Iran’s current government even existed? The civil conflict taking place in israel has been going on since the early 20th century, with the Nakba occurring in 1948. Contemporary Iran didn’t exist until the '79.
So many different cultures and governments have each opposed Israel for their own reasons with the Palestinians and revisionist Zionists being the only common belligerents? Of course geopolitics plays an influence. What I am arguing is that the struggle between revisionist Zionist colonists and Palestinian people is primary rather than secondary. Each group has had different relationships internationally at different times, but this is about colonization not about whatever historical foreign governments want at any given time. Those relationships are very relevant, but not more relevant than what had directly been happening for many decades.
There’s only two religions in the area… Israel is home to one, and ALL the other surrounding countries are the other. That’s the basis for this entire conflict, and has been since before Israel even declared independence. Jewish citizens of the area were legally second class citizens under the Byzantine empire which got broken up during the world wars for supporting the wrong side, and were frequently attacked by Islamic groups during that period.
Colonization? Jerusalem and the surrounding regions has been the primary home of the Jewish people for a couple thousand years. Just for clarity, Gaza is around 50km away from Jerusalem. How can you colonize the area where you’ve existed for literally millenia?
You need to get off your dumb ass and learn a little history, you’re making a fool of yourself by using words and concepts that simply do not apply to this conflict.
I’ve spoken to enough Trumpists to know when a good faith conversation is impossible. If you want to talk about historical context, we could have talked about historical context rather than me talking about what’s directly relevant within the last century and you cherry picking pieces of info from anywhere during the last 1500 years. I’m not impressed or intimidated by your knowing the word “Byzantine,” and it’s kind of cute that you think I don’t know anything about the surface-level, out-of-context crap you’re using to distract from a very clear case of removing people from their land to establish an ethnostate. It’s kind of embarassing that you don’t even understand how much of a fool you’ve made of yourself in this thread.
You’re not a brain-dead right-winger in general even though that’s the side you’ve chosen in this instance. When you calm down, I think you’ll be able to do better than this fit you’ve been throwing here.
How has Israel been in a proxy conflict with Iran since before Iran’s current government even existed? The civil conflict taking place in israel has been going on since the early 20th century, with the Nakba occurring in 1948. Contemporary Iran didn’t exist until the '79.
Who said Iran is the only one involved, or that they’ve been doing it since 1948?
5 different Arab nations invaded Israel the day they declared independence. Gaza was specifically created from the area where Egypt invaded.
Iran is just one of the strongest military powers in the region, and wants to destroy Israel for both religious and political reasons.
So many different cultures and governments have each opposed Israel for their own reasons with the Palestinians and revisionist Zionists being the only common belligerents? Of course geopolitics plays an influence. What I am arguing is that the struggle between revisionist Zionist colonists and Palestinian people is primary rather than secondary. Each group has had different relationships internationally at different times, but this is about colonization not about whatever historical foreign governments want at any given time. Those relationships are very relevant, but not more relevant than what had directly been happening for many decades.
There’s only two religions in the area… Israel is home to one, and ALL the other surrounding countries are the other. That’s the basis for this entire conflict, and has been since before Israel even declared independence. Jewish citizens of the area were legally second class citizens under the Byzantine empire which got broken up during the world wars for supporting the wrong side, and were frequently attacked by Islamic groups during that period.
Colonization? Jerusalem and the surrounding regions has been the primary home of the Jewish people for a couple thousand years. Just for clarity, Gaza is around 50km away from Jerusalem. How can you colonize the area where you’ve existed for literally millenia?
You need to get off your dumb ass and learn a little history, you’re making a fool of yourself by using words and concepts that simply do not apply to this conflict.
I’ve spoken to enough Trumpists to know when a good faith conversation is impossible. If you want to talk about historical context, we could have talked about historical context rather than me talking about what’s directly relevant within the last century and you cherry picking pieces of info from anywhere during the last 1500 years. I’m not impressed or intimidated by your knowing the word “Byzantine,” and it’s kind of cute that you think I don’t know anything about the surface-level, out-of-context crap you’re using to distract from a very clear case of removing people from their land to establish an ethnostate. It’s kind of embarassing that you don’t even understand how much of a fool you’ve made of yourself in this thread.
You’re not a brain-dead right-winger in general even though that’s the side you’ve chosen in this instance. When you calm down, I think you’ll be able to do better than this fit you’ve been throwing here.