I just found out the PSP Go was a thing and I really like the idea of having the screen slide up to reveal the controls. I think this would be a great way to make a more compact version of the Steamdeck. I don’t know about the low form factor joysticks though. I’ve never used anything like those before and I’m not sure how they’d feel to use. Maybe it would just be something I’d have to get used to. Regardless, I’d love to hear what other people think about this idea.

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    I think not having joysticks would be a dealbreaker

    If you like this you should check out Ayaneo Slide

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      There would be joysticks. They would just be a different style. They’re low profile and slide more than tilt. I don’t really know how to explain them

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    I think the main factors for the size of the Steam Deck and other similar handheld PCs are the size of the APU and heat dissipation. You’d get some serious performance degradation if you went much smaller. Even the Nintendo Switch is a similar size.

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      https://youtu.be/WdHF1x-jK4I?si=yZhogz0lVxeY3Nqw

      This thing is larger in size but is a similar form factor. For PC gaming I don’t see anything getting much smaller than this for another few years at least. This thing is really cool though, this to me looks like the most viable handheld for on the go PC gaming I’ve seen. Really short battery life tho.

      I think once arm starts to become more common, and/or other RISC based platforms gain mainstream traction, more games will work on ARM based processors, and in turn we’ll start to see smaller and longer lasting PC gaming handhelds with arm based chips. Or at the least, handhelds with PC graphic quality.

      But it will happen eventually, you’d blow someone from the 90’s mind if you showed them a 3Ds, it all just takes time.

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        I agree. I didn’t think it would end up anywhere near the size of a PSP but I thought the sliding form factor would help a bit with compactness. It would help with portability too as you wouldn’t need a custom case or those sticky things to protect the joysticks.

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          As someone who has a Steam Controller, you’d still need to protect the joysticks and touch pads. They both wear out over time due to abrasion and the oils on your fingers.

          I’d much rather have some kind of mechanism built into the shell that improves ergonomics but can go compact for storing in the case.

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            Those keyboards are designed to be used with your thumbs while holding it from the side. They don’t really function any other way. You can’t reach the keyboard from the side because of the width of the controller. There’s no possibility whatsoever that the device will balance if you hold it from the bottom where your thumbs could theoretically reach, ignoring that your thumbs also don’t bend that way.

            It’s quite possibly the least ergonomic device ever made.

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      I agree, but maybe it’s time for a Linux based Nintendo DS / PSP sized device? I mean, Nintendo has abandoned these truly pocketable consoles. Maybe with a die shrink they could fit something 70% as performant as a deck into that form Factor?

      I personally know a lot of people who miss the DS and don’t game anymore now that the platform was dropped. Casual gamer types.

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        Those already exist based on Raspberry Pis or similar SBCs. I once sold some pretty cheap (cheap, not low cost) ones with the intention of making enough money to be able to afford one for myself. Until I realised that it’s much cheaper to slap a controller on my phone and call it a day.

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    Much of the “slider” form factor died out early for a very good reason.

    The simple reality is that the more moving parts you put on something, the more parts there are to break. It’s why phones became boring rectangles, hand-held gaming devices became slightly less boring rectangles, and why physical buttons were phased out of mp3 players, phones, etc…

    Physical things cause complexity. Complexity increases warranty claims.

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    Never held a psp go in my hands, but from the videos I’ve seen it looks horribly uncomfortable

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    Technology isn’t there yet.

    There’s certainly handhelds in the PSP go form factor already, but they use much smaller OSes than the steamdeck uses, and still have to make sacrifices usually.

    Like you’d probably just get a quick-boot to a retroarch variant for emulation and thats the entirety of the OS you’d get.

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      What do you mean smaller Os? There is a PSP mod that puts a Raspberry Pi inside it. Raspberry Pi runs a Debian fork. Sure it’s not fast enough for Steam games but it’s still a Linux desktop environment.

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        Technically the mini retroarch is also on linux, but that’s not what people think of when they think “I want to run it like I do the steamdeck”

        Like you said, not enough for steam games. technicalities don’t leave people feeling happy.

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    Looks gross and awful to use. I’m gonna go controversial but every psp was a piece of trash. All the psps without two joysticks sucked and the ones that did had crap joysticks. The games on psp sucked more than free games on the android store.

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    There’s a ton of those out there and they don’t offer a lot more than what the steam deck can already do.

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    I’d love something closer to the vita I think, I don’t need the slide mechanic it’s just something else to break. Pocketable steam deck, hell yes.

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    I liked the 3ds stick, but with the metal mod. The stock rubber one could not handle smash bros. The psp one wasn’t quite to my liking and I couldn’t get used to it. I didn’t have any mod for that though.

    Maybe recessed normal sticks could work too because the device would still have to be fairly thick. It sounds like a nightmare to design, assemble, and repair though.