Seriously, these guys are straight up tankies with nothing worthwhile to contribute. Can we defederate them and isolate their BS?
Seriously, these guys are straight up tankies with nothing worthwhile to contribute. Can we defederate them and isolate their BS?
Like how servers started defederating dbzer0 for having piracy communities? Sounds great for the fediverse. What’s stopping you from just blocking the instances?
tbh blocking dbzero is kinda understandable because of legal reasons related to hosting the instance
Near as I can tell, sh.itjust.works doesn’t have an option for blocking instances, otherwise I would. In any event, tankie bullshit should be defederated and people in normal instances shouldn’t be subjected to that.
Looks like the upgrade is planned for this week, so it might be easier to wait a few days
https://sh.itjust.works/post/15086952
Once I have the ability, I fully intend to. It doesn’t change the point that they’re extremists and their bullshit shouldn’t be associated with decent instances. Sh.itjust.works should still defederate them.
Defederation should be a big decision, and instances shouldn’t do so on a whim. If people want it, it can be done after some discussion
It should be discouraged unless the other instance is actively breaking the rules. When instances are super fragmented, it’s a much worse experience for everyone and it gets confusing for new people. So it should be limited to when enough people agree it’s necessary
The fact that these instances are full of tankies and Russian apologists isn’t a whim, it’s valid reason for defederating. Their bullshit doesn’t belong here.
Then make the case in The Agora. I am opposed to defederation, but maybe I’m in the minority.
Thanks, I was unaware of that community’s existence, I thought this was the main one for instance related posts.
You can certainly discuss it here, but The Agora is where actual, meaningful discussion happens for instance policy.
stop generalising please. There’s a lot of decent people on ml. Just because you’re butthurt about a single Russian shill doesn’t mean the entire instance is full of them.
Those people are welcome to leave that instance and come to a decent one and I won’t have a problem with them. The instance itself is infested with them though.
Not really
Sounds like an awful lot of projection ngl
It’s not projection, it’s personal experience.
I only know of one server who defederated dbzer0, so it doesn’t seem like a major thing. Maybe some are hiding the Piracy communities (that happened with Lemmy.world a while back) but most seem to still be federating with dbzer0.
I moved from .world because they defederated dbzer0. They’ve since refederated though.
Are you sure that they defederated, because from what I saw they just blocked some of the communities, it certainly was looking like it would end up going that route though, plus they were banning people from the instance in the thread who were speaking out or making points, it certainly was a feud between the two instances, but it didn’t seem like they defederated (though I do remember some very angry anti-piracy trolls calling for it).
You might be right. I think I moved after reading this post from the lemmy.world team. Specifically the part:
The fediverse being in a state of fairly continuous growth, ‘as it gets big’ can refer to any arbitrary point in time over the past couple of years or moving forward. The statement is essentially, we will arbitrate the content on the instance for reasons. That’s fine, but not something I personally want out of my instance, so I left. sh.itjust.works was the other instance I considered moving to at the time, and I’d be against the team there defederating politicised instances in the same way. If I were a user there, I’d leave.
It wouldn’t really affect me anyway in this case, I got permabanned from lemmygrad.ml (which seems to share banlists with hexbear) for reason “liberal” after pointing out suggestions Trudeau literally voiced support for nazis were being deliberately facetious.