• P03 Locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    5 months ago

    I don’t know why this is such a surprise. Republicans want to banish anybody who’s different from them: blacks, gays, trans, liberals, strong and independent women, anybody with a shred of empathy.

    Republicans saying the quiet part out loud doesn’t really change anything.

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      Republicans want to banish anybody who’s different from them: blacks, gays, trans, liberals, strong and independent women, anybody with a shred of empathy.

      …basically the people Jesus would probably hang out with if he was still around.

      Amazing how the meaning of the word “Christian” has gotten so perverted over the years.

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        That’s because he wasn’t around and it hasn’t been perverted. It’s the same as it always was and we keep making excuses for it.

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          That’s because he wasn’t around

          See: Historicity of Jesus (especially the first part):

          The question of historicity was generally settled in scholarship in the early 20th century, and today scholars in the field agree that a Jewish man called Jesus of Nazareth did exist in the Herodian Kingdom of Judea and the subsequent Herodian tetrarchy in the 1st century CE, upon whose life and teachings Christianity was later constructed.

          and it hasn’t been perverted.

          Wait, what?

          It’s the same as it always was and we keep making excuses for it.

          To a certain extent, yes. But especially over most of the past decade, specifically related to hate becoming more acceptable among so-called “Christians”, it’s gotten one hell of a lot worse.

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            The Abrahamic religions are based in genocide and hate, it’s woven into the narrative of the books themselves. That’s why it was “righteous” in Yahweh’s eyes to bash the heads of infants against rocks and wipe out entire tribes, to take their children daughters as wives etc.

            Even Jesus with his supposed reforms was still anti-lgbt, he never said that stuff was ok, only that you could get forgiven of your sinful nature (i.e. being gay/trans) and that once you believe in his teachings you won’t have those “sinful” desires to break god’s laws anymore. So, at best, he preached conversion therapy.

            Anti-lgbt hate is always going to rear its head out of the Abrahamic religions unfortunately, even if good people who practice the religion ignore the gross parts, those gross parts will never go away.

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              Even Jesus with his supposed reforms was still anti-lgbt…So, at best, he preached conversion therapy.

              Understood. However, my point is that he was more likely to hang out with society’s outcasts than, for example, business interests.

              Many of today’s so-called “Christians” don’t want LGBTQ people to exist.

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                Haha.

                I’m gay. I was raised Catholic, and everyone around me made it crystal clear that God hates fags like me.

                I desperately tried to cling to my faith without coming out, “faith alone gets you into heaven”, “only the Old testament talks about being gay as a sin and that’s only binding for Jews”, but every time I tried to reconcile my faith with who i am, the church, my dad, friends, family, neighbors, all were sure to come down hard on that position and make it super clear that you can’t get into heaven if you’re a faggot like me. Full stop.

                Eventually I left Catholosicm, thinking I could find another denomination that would accept me. Did you know there are over 40,000 denominations of Christianity? If you look into them, you find that they all proclaim to be the singular source of the word of God and everyone else is going to hell, including Christians of every other denomination. Then you look back at Catholicism and it’s all the same shit the other 40,000 are spouting and that doesn’t look any more real either. And once you’re detached from the notion of Christianity, the entire religion looks exactly identical to every other religion out there. It’s impossible to pick a “right” religion because they are all fake.

                Fuck religion.

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                  I’m sorry that you had to go through what you did. I left Christianity behind over 20 years ago for various reasons. I’ve since just been happy embracing the ineffable.