• KyoStarr@kbin.social
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    6 months ago

    I was excited for this game but this pisses me off. This is more egregious than when they locked classes behind DLC for Yakuza Like A Dragon (which was also really bad).

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    6 months ago

    Bizarre in what sense? People will pay for it and it likely won’t stop anyone from buying the base game. NG+ is for niche players.

    It’s scummy and slimy, but who doesn’t expect scummy and slimy at this point?

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      6 months ago

      It’s bizarre in that I’ve never heard of it before. I’ve heard of paying for online access, expansions, and new characters, but not for NG+, which is usually just replaying the same campaign with higher stats and maybe more difficulty.

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        6 months ago

        Sure it’s new. But I’ve come to expect that the games industry will generally be very innovative when it comes to finding ways to squeeze more money out of people for the same, or less, content. It sucks but calling it bizarre implies we don’t know why they would do it.

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            6 months ago

            But it’s not strange or unusual. It’s part of a broader pattern. It’s novel, sure.

            My point isn’t that the change is good or even neutral. It’s bad. I’m just expecting this stuff at this point.

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              6 months ago

              Have you ever seen another game that charges for NG+? If not, it’s unusual.

              I expect MTX in paid games, expensive new releases, and poor value DLC because games consistently do that lately. I don’t expect paid NG+ because games don’t to that.

              Just because it can be easily explained by a trend doesn’t mean I should’ve expected it when nobody else does it.

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                6 months ago

                You’re arguing with me as if I approve of or justify this stuff. I don’t. I think it sucks. But if you’re surprised tbh I don’t think you’re being realistic. We’re at the point where all functionality is “fair game” to be parceled out for extra bucks.

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    6 months ago

    I don’t even do NG+ in these huge games, but now I’m going to skip this one on principle, even though I do like the series. Nope, not going to allow a company to treat me this way.

    There will of course be a lot of people who bend over and take it (or even defend it), but I’d rather replay an older title than encourage this shit.

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      6 months ago

      Exactly. NG+ doesn’t add any content, it just gives you an alternate way to explore the content you missed.

      I’d pay for an expansion, online access, and maybe additional characters (i.e. different play style in existing content), but not NG+.

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    6 months ago

    I don’t know how I feel about this.

    I feel like either you don’t care about this, because a lot of Yakuza fans will just play the game for the story and be done with it.

    Or you do care about this and…I guess pirate it because NG+ being locked out seems kindof outrageous

    It just doesn’t seem like an audience thats going to bring in much money compared to the outrage?

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    6 months ago

    Only legislation will stop this.

    Nothing inside a video game should cost money. Games make you value arbitrary nonsense. That is what makes them games. Developers are being told to invent new forms of bullshit that cost the company nothing and don’t feel like the same old lootboxes everyone finally recognized are a scam. It’s still just lootboxes. You are being manipulated into throwing unlimited sums of money at a game you already own just so it will function, as a game.

    There is no ethical form of that. It’s an abuse for free money. You were never going to shop your way out of it. Boycotts don’t work, here. So long as they gouge one sucker in ten, your nonparticipation counts for nothing. You will be subject to the restraint, addiction, and frustration that coerced them, until you cough up more money to briefly enjoy the fun version of the game that is being kept from you out of abject greed.

    If we allow this to continue, there will be nothing else.

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        6 months ago

        Abusive business models have no place in the market.

        Stop treating “this is literally a scam” like it has a damn thing to do with what’s in the game part of a game. Nobody’s coming to censor your precious vidya. This is about the money.

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    6 months ago

    First the change from brawler to bog standard jrpg combat, now they’re pulling shit like this. Yeah, this series is going downhill fast…

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    6 months ago

    That’s sad because I have loved the Yakuza games. Obvious money grab, and even though I never play NG+, this makes me feel like I won’t buy this title.

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    6 months ago

    Isn’t this the longest lad game ever? If it’s something only the doe hards are actually going to get to, I could see locking it behind more $