Intellectually I know it’s fine. I know there’s plenty of time to complete the game. I just can’t stand a ticking clock counting down, constantly. It makes me anxious and completely ruins my enjoyment of the game. I also have this problem with Stardew Valley where I constantly feel like there’s not enough time and I’m being pulled in several directions at once and I can’t focus on anything. It’s a nightmare.
With Stardew, really?
You can start making friends at year 58 if you want, there’s no consequence to anything in that game… You can forget your animals for a year and start giving them love again and they’ll start producing again… It’s a game where each day you can decide to focus on one thing and it doesn’t matter if you forget about the rest…
It took me a while to figure this out during my first playthrough. Once you realise it’s not like harvest moon and there is no end to the game and you can just do what you want for as long as you want, the game became much more enjoyable for me
It’s not about worrying that I won’t be able to do stuff again, just the existence of the ever-looming timer is stressful. And you have to water your crops every morning, and harvest them when they’re ready. You can only plant certain crops in certain seasons. There are requests on the bulletin board that have time limits. Shops are only open on certain days, and I know if I don’t do that thing today I won’t be able to tomorrow because it will be closed. If the timer didn’t matter, then there wouldn’t be a timer.
Don’t get me wrong, I like Stardew Valley. But I stopped playing it, partly because I found it too stressful. Which isn’t great cause people always advertise it as this really relaxing game, and I’m sure it is for them, but I guess my brain just works differently. And I really want to like Stardew Valley more, I want to be able to play it and relax.
I’m not even trying to minmax or anything, I try to take my time, but it doesn’t really work. I can’t just ignore the timer, cause then I’ll pass out and wake up with hardly any stamina.
Edit: Also “you can just focus on one thing” sure, but then what do I do for the rest of the day?
For the rest of the day? Go fishing my dude! 😎
That’s less of an issue with the second game, as you can ignore the timer, but yeah that’s part of why I never really tried the first game.
I think its harder to ignore in the second game, since the shaman dude constantly telepathically calls you up like “So uh, you find that GECK yet? Shit’s starting to get kinda bad up here.” Every now and then. The first game just has the post-it note with how many days you got left that you can ignore.
Fallout Fixt mod allows you to increase the time limit and practically disable it, among many other tweaks
I’m a huge fan of the OG Fallouts, played them many times. I replayed Fallout 1 just a week ago and it’s great but… I would be hasitant to recommend it to someone who never played it. It is really archaic and I’m not talking about the graphics as that’s fine. It can simply be a bit hard to operate to people used to modern games.
You don’t have any tutorials telling you how to play it. If you actually find a quest log in Pip Boy, it turns out it only lists some quests and doesn’t have any details on them, only a vague one-liner title.
Figuring out that a randomly found item called Junk with an absolutely general description is actually an item needed to fix some machinery and that you need to hold right button on said machinery, from the drop-down select backpack, scroll to said junk and click it to use… isn’t really straight forward. Same goes for using some skills (repair, science etc.)
The game is also incredibly unforgiving and even when using all 10 save slots you can get locked out. Saying the wrong thing often causes an NPC to attack you, and when you kill them, everyone around turn hostile. Sometimes you don’t even need to talk and get attacked on sight.
You go to the Glow without a stock of Rad-X and you can go through it thinking everything’s fine and you’ll heal that radiation later. Your character seems to be fine, until you try to leave the location and you just keep dying in the Wasteland, seemingly for no reason. This happened to me last playthorugh and after 20 attempts I finally managed to survive by eating every drug I had with me xD. Only some (real) hours later I noticed that my SPECIAL stats were permanently lowered. The game makes it really hard and rare to permanently increase those stats and easy to lower it (drug addiction will do the same, or I think attacks from the Master and/or his Nightkin).
There are also bugs. It’s super frustrating when a BoS companion blocks you elevator exit in Mariposa Base. Had to force them to run through force fields multiple times so they die…
These are just some examples and even though some of these issues get fixed or improved in Fallout 2, they illustrate what I mean - a modern gamer can simply bounce back from OG Fallouts and I wouldn’t blame them.
Also - since when anyone cares what “tik tok says”?
I started playing FO1 for the first time on my steam deck. Maybe I ought to have a walkthrough handy as push my way through it.
I didn’t like the 3D Fallouts but I had fond memories of the original two, so I tried to replay Fallout 2 a few years ago. The writing is great but the gameplay has not aged well. Combat is simply tedious, especially against many enemies at once. You have to wait for them to slowly take their turns one by one, then on your turn you often just stand still and shoot once. Outside of combat, there’s a lot of running back and forth which gets quite tedious too. I guess I had more patience twenty five years ago than I do now…
Fallout 1 and 2 are the only games in the series I’ve put any significant time into.
Boy are you in for a treat! 3 is amazing. 4 is good (I’m not a fan of base building) but the far harbor dlc specifically was great
You’d think so, but I have trouble staying engaged with that type of game.
I put a lot of hours into Fallout 1. What a great game.
Also everyone should play Arcanum
I wanted to love this game so much back in the day but sadly it seemed to have a lot of bugs. Are there any fan patches to make it playable on modern systems?
There is some fan patched version of the game but I haven’t tried it.
Imagine if they made a deal with Larian to make another installment in the franchise (not Fallout 5, just something like New Vegas by Obsidian). How cool would that be? They specialize in turn-based, top-down RPGs and would fit perfectly.
I remember editing the files for that game and giving myself many many action points so I could practically kill every single person in one turn.
Actual hacking when it was cool and not a dick move.
I’m replaying the first Fallout since the show release and as much as I love it the controls suck. I would like to see a remaster that fixes that. Graphics are fine to me though.
Please don’t kill me, but I hate those games. There are very few 2D games that I like and fallout 1 and 2 are not on the list.
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Curious what’s your year of birth?
FO2 is a great game but there’s no way my kids, who have only known 3D, could get into something so old.
I can’t imagine anyone not enjoying Super Mario World or Mario 3.
Or Tetris. Some games are timeless.
Most games I like are 2D, so that’s kind of a weird statement. I grew up on SNES, though. My family skipped the N64, so I didn’t even get a 3D console until the GameCube… Which I didn’t even get until years after it launched.
I liked them when I was little, because that’s all we had at the time and we didn’t know any better. Now, that we have amazing games with insane graphics, 2D games look like shit to me. I’m so sorry if that’s offensive, but that’s how I just feel about them, genuinely
Different strokes, I suppose. I have never cared for graphics in a game. I don’t care today, I didn’t care when I was playing Super Mario World as a kid. I care far more about gameplay, tight controls, and later in life I started caring more about good narrative. The best looking game in the world wouldn’t keep my attention if the controls felt like garbage, or if the gameplay was just plain boring.
I care about graphics in games (although mostly due to art direction rather than just “realism”). And yet I still agree with you and think the other guy is bonkers. 2D games can be awesome, 3D games can be awesome.
As someone who started with 3 and is enjoying a replay and low key excited to do the dlcs on that one for the first time, these comments are making me more optimistic about trying 1 and 2.
There are mods to fix some of the bugs and add some quality of life but they’re still pretty janky and obtuse. That being said, they’re still fantastic and engrossing games that are absolutely worth trying.
I spent eight rounds failing to reload my gun and died to the first rat
Fallout 3 my favourite and that new TV shows not bad
Eh. Tried fallout 2 a while ago because the lore is interesting… Boring. Too much grind, too much emptiness.
