IMO, if it’s not trained on images of real people, it only becomes unethical to have it generate images of real people. At that point, it wouldn’t be any different than a human drawing a pornographic image and drawings do not exploit anyone.
Using pornographic art to train is still using other people’s art without permission.
And if it’s able to generate porn that looks like real people, it can be used to abuse people.
[Edited] I agree that we should be taking consent more seriously. Especially when it comes to monetizing off the back of donations. That’s just outright wrong. However, I don’t think we should consider scrapping it all or putting in extraneous/consumer damaging ‘safe guards’. There are lots of things that can cause harm, and I’ll argue almost anything can be used to harm people. That’s why its our jobs to carefully pump the breaks on progress, so that we can assess what risk is possible, and how to treat any wounds that may incurr. For example, invading a country to spread ‘democracy’ and leaving things like power gaps behind, causing more damage than what was there orginally. It’s a very very thing rope we walk across, but we can’t afford, in todays age, to slow down too far. We face a lot of serious problems that need more help, and AI can fill that gap in addition to being a fun, creative outlet. We hold a lot of new power here, and I just don’t want to see that squandered away into the pockets of the ruling class.
I don’t think anyone should take luddites seriously tbh(edit: we should take everyone seriously, and learn from mistakes while also potentially learning forgotten lessons)You clearly have no idea what the luddites actually stood for.
You’ll notice I used the lower case L which implies I’m referring to a term, likely as it’s commonly used today. (edit: this isn’t an excuse to ruin the definition or history of what luddites were trying to do, this was wrong of me)
Further, explain to me how this is different from what the luddites stood for, since you obviously know so much more and I’m so off base with this comment.
edit: exactly. just downvote and don’t actually make any sort of claim. Muddy that water! edit 2: shut up angsty past me.
So, I didn’t downvote you because that’s not how I operate.
The Luddites were not protesting against technology in and of itself, they were protesting against the capture of their livelihoods by proto-capitalists who purposefully produced inferior quality goods at massive volume to drive down the price and put the skilled workers out of business.
They were protesting market capture, and the destruction of their livelihood by the rich.
This sort of monopolistic practice is these days considered to be a classic example of monopolistic market failure.
There is a massive overlap between the philosophy of the Luddites, and the cooperative movement.
The modern usage of the term is to disparage the working class as stupid, feckless, and scared. This has never been true.
I do not want that for anyone. AI is a tool that should be kept open to everyone, and trained with consent. But as soon as people argue that its only a tool that can harm, is where I’m drawing the line. That’s, in my opinion, when govts/ruling class/capitalists/etc start to put in BS “safeguards” to prevent the public from making using of the new power/tech.
I should have been more verbose and less reactionary/passive aggressive in conveying my message, its something I’m trying to work on, so I appreciate your cool-headed response here. I took the “you clearly don’t know what ludites are” as an insult to what I do or don’t know. I specifically was trying to draw attention to the notion that AI is solely harmful as being fallacious and ignorant to the full breadth of the tech. Just because something can cause harm, doesn’t mean we should scrap it. It just means we need to learn how it can harm, and how to treat that. Nothing more. I believe in consent, and I do not believe in the ruling minority/capitalist practices.
Again, it was an off the cuff response, I made a lot of presumptions about their views without ever having actually asking them to expand/clarify and that was ignorant of me. I will update/edit the comment to improve my statement.
AI is a tool that should be kept open to everyone
I agree with this principle, however the reality is that given the massive computational power needed to run many (but not all) models, the control of AI is in the hands of the mega corps.
Just look at what the FAANGs are doing right now, and compare to what the mill owners were doing in the 1800s.
The best use of LLMs, right now, is for boilerplating initial drafts of documents. Those drafts then need to be reviewed, and tweaked, by skilled workers, ahead of publication. This can be a significant efficiency saving, but does not remove the need for the skilled worker if you want to maintain quality.
But what we are already seeing is CEOs, etc, deciding to take “a decision based on risk” to gut entire departments and replace them with a chat bot, which then
inventshallucinates the details of a particular company policy, leading to a lower quality service, but significantly increased profits, because you’re no longer paying for ensured quality.The issue is not the method of production, it is who controls it.
So the only thing the article says is :
The Model Spec document says NSFW content “may include erotica, extreme gore, slurs, and unsolicited profanity.” It is unclear if OpenAI’s explorations of how to responsibly make NSFW content envisage loosening its usage policy only slightly, for example to permit generation of erotic text, or more broadly to allow descriptions or depictions of violence.
… and somehow Wired turned it into “OpenAI wants to generate porn”.
This is just pure clickbait.
Erotic text messages could be considered pornographic work I guess, like erotic literature. But I think they just start to realize how many of their customers jailbreak GPT for that specific purpose, and how good alternatives have gotten who allow for this type of chat, such as NovelAI. Given how many other AI services started to censor things and how much that affected their models (like your chat bot partner getting stuck in consent messages as soon as you went into anything slightly outside vanilla territory), and how much drama that has caused throughout those communities, I highly doubt that “loosening” their policy is going to be enough to sway people towards them instead of the competition.
