• VeganTomato@lemmy.today
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    3 months ago

    This is such fake liberal shit, everyone knows the polar ice caps are thicker than they’ve been in the last thousand years. If you believe this liberal doomsday shit you are one sorry individual SMH.

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      3 months ago

      Arctic sea ice has been consistently shrinking since at least 1980. So have the Greenland and West Antarctic ice sheets. The East Antarctic ice sheet has by contrast been constantly growing since records began, which is probably where you got your factoid from. But this is due to local phenomena, such as the Antarctic ozone hole, increasing westerly wind strength and increasing snowfall. East Antarctica is one of the few regions which seems to have escaped the effects of climate change (so far).

      There’s almost no doubt that the world is warming overall due to human activity. The fossil fuel industry doesn’t like this, so they put out propaganda to counter facts. Do your own research :).

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      IKR? If only we had some way of capturing photographic evidence from satellites and aerial photography that would let us map the advance and retreat of glaciers around the world. That would be really useful technology in ensuring that facts could be used when discussing this important issue.

      Oh well, I guess it’s too technical to ask for such things after all. Maybe Elon Musk can do something about it in the next decade.

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        Maybe we could also survey the underside of the ice caps at the same time, while we’re at it? Oh, we’re alrrady doing that and it’s horrible? Alright.

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      3 months ago

      Consecutive hottest years on record
      Increases in wildfires and hurricanes
      Accelerating sea level rise
      Persistent droughts

      But it’s ‘doomsday bullshit’ because checks notes some ice in Antarctica got thicker. Got it.

      I don’t even see how it’s doomsday stuff, we just gotta live better. Lower meat consumption, more renewable energy, less car-focused living, more sustainable construction and consumption. It’s entirely within our ability to prevent the worst case outcomes. It’s only giving up and pretending we have no power that would make it a ‘doomsday’ scenario.

  • MyNamesNotRobert@lemmynsfw.com
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    Stop having kids. Doing away with most modem technology to save the planet, if that’s what they really want to do, is in no way shape or form even remotely sustainable with this many people on the planet aka mouths to feed. In fact look at current costs of living vs wages. Climate issues aside things aren’t even sustainable as it is and that’s without extreme downsizing.

  • Honytawk@lemmy.zip
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    3 months ago

    The only thing is that this diagram makes it seem like the sea levels rising is caused by ice melting, while in reality it is because as water heats up, it expands.

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        Sure, but the amount of ice on land is but a small spec compared to the water in the ocean.

        If all the ice in the world melted, it wouldn’t affect the ocean level that much. Compared to thermal expansion of the water.

        Ice melting is a symptom, not a cause.

  • Hegar@kbin.social
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    Humans reach North America is listed at ~16k years ago. That’s based on the Clovis First model that was still dominant then.

    Now we know small populations of humans were already in the Americas when this chart begins, having traveled along the coast from around what is today Japan.

    Archaeology is progressing so quickly these days that even XKCD is no longer an up-to-date source!

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        3 months ago

        “Kelp Highway” is a common name for the theory, since it involves exploiting rich marine ecosystems while expanding down the coast relatively quickly.

        “Pre Clovis Sites” should get you to the level of specific digs.

        “Western stemmed points” are the most solid link back to the cultures in East Asia after the last glacial maximum. I believe the genetic data is not as clear on this yet but is coming together.

        The Oregon Archaeological Society’s YouTube channel has a number of professional lectures for amateur enthusiasts that touch on this - https://youtu.be/KPpgn-NVeLI?si=SCKpePUNp3pKyPSa i think this is the one with a lot of info on the evidence for links to cultures in Japan.

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    Earth has been iceless before of course, and I’ve heard people claim its not a problem for it to happen again.

    But if only this heating had occured slowly over a period of ~45 million years, nobody would have panicked. We’d adapt. Fauna and flora would adapt. We’d not even notice the ice caps melting.