South Africa accuses Israel of committing the heinous crime

I used to like The Economist, but this is Nazis propaganda right on their page.

Israel, by contrast, does not meet the test of genocide. There is little evidence that Israel, like Hamas, “intends” to destroy an ethnic group—the Palestinians. Israel does want to destroy Hamas, a militant group, and is prepared to kill many civilians in doing so. While some Israeli extremists might want to eradicate the Palestinians, that is not a government policy.

This is not okay. This is Nazi logic. Nazi, fascist logic, from The Economist.

Even Nazi Germany did not make killing the official “intention” or government policy in my understanding. At least not always. It was announced as a safety guarantee, for example.

  • Skull giver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl
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    6 months ago

    Genocide does require intent, though. Of course, I don’t think there’s much doubt about Israel’s intent, but if they’re right and the citizen casualties are just the result of accidents and broad incompetence, it wouldn’t be genocide.

    Luckily, we’re getting an answer from the experts soon; Israel is under trial in the Hague right now, and we’ll find out soon enough whether or not what they’re doing constitutes as genocide. Not that this will do anything but attach a label, of course; Israel’s biggest ally doesn’t recognise the ICC, after all.

    • taanegl@beehaw.org
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      6 months ago

      I think classifying “hurt children, family dead” as a military metric should be the canary in the coalmine.

      But again, we don’t establish intent by catching Netenyahu saying “We’re literally going to genocide the Palestinian people”.

      You’ll have to establish intent, or motive, by collecting the many, many hundreds of statements, quotes and accounts regarding the Israeli state, Israeli organisations, Zionist organisation ACROSS THE DECADES, to the Zionist vacation plans, the gathering of settlers and international fund raising, the paper trail of property seized by the Israeli state in one form or another, the messaging, the subtext, and oh my god I’m glad I’m not a lawyer.

    • acockworkorange@mander.xyz
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      6 months ago

      What do you call it when a government accidentally wipes an ethnicity from a place through war and displacement over the course of several years? A genslaughter? An oopsie-daisy?

    • alcyoneous@midwest.social
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      6 months ago

      Just a quick correction, the ICJ (where this is taking place) is the UN Judicial body. The ICC, established by the Rome Statute, is a different thing. If you’re a UN member, the ICJ has jurisdiction.

      https://www.icj-cij.org/court

      The ICC is also launching a war crimes probe, but as you noted, Israel and the US aren’t signatories so that might not amount to much.

      • Skull giver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl
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        6 months ago

        I see, I guesss I had them confused.

        Not that I think this matters much; with the US in a permanent position on the security council, I’m sure any attempt to connect any real consequences to the judgement here will fail.