Why are FOSS platforms like Matrix having such a hard time getting users to migrate from Discord? Because of PluralKit.

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    8 months ago

    The difference:

    • Discord, Facebook/WhatsApp, Telegram, etc. are selling your data… to select customers.
    • Matrix, Mastodon, Lemmy, etc. are giving your data for free… to everyone.

    Like, if there was a stalker wanting to attack you in particular… neither is good, but one is worse than the other.

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      8 months ago

      Right, you do have to understand that either way, if you put something on the public internet, it is gone.

      I don’t want a company to sell my data, making money off of me, then having the audacity to ask me for MORE money on top (nitro). It feels gross.

      I don’t mind sharing bits of myself online otherwise.

      The owners of federated instances can also just start selling your data too at any point. And as you said, advertisers will also just scrape public data trivially. Basically, the internet and world is a terrible place.

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        8 months ago

        Stuff gets deleted from the Internet all the time… other stuff goes viral and lasts for decades. YMMV

        It seems to me like your threat model is different from OP’s, though. Worrying about ad blockers not being enough, is not the same as fearing for your life because someone might decide to track down where you are IRL.

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      8 months ago

      Lemmy is not enriching the data you put on it with data that Lemmy purchases from third parties, in order to create a user-product to sell to advertisers. Meta and Discord are (obviously Meta much moreso). That’s why advertisers buy from them instead of just scraping your posts themselves.

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        8 months ago

        Matrix encrypts by default when starting a “DM room”, otherwise it doesn’t force encryption, only allows it.

        All the unencrypted rooms out there, are susceptible of getting their contents scraped by either the server, a federated server, an invited user, or even anyone.

        Encrypted rooms, can also get scraped unless they’re set with security in mind (only send to validated users, make it invite only, don’t show past history).