• jet@hackertalks.com
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    5 months ago

    They knew about the PSN requirement for 6 months before launch. This makes Arrowhead at fault here.

    I think the only reasonable thing to be done, is issue refunds for the people who want refunds, and then we can all get on with our lives.

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      5 months ago

      yeah, the more that comes out, the more it seems that this was a hard requirement by Sony that they ignored. Ballsy by Arrowhead, and I get why they wanted to, but I’m guessing Sony is pissed at Arrowhead for doing this, and they’re pissed that their name is getting dragged for it. They’re not the good guys, but I’m guessing there are a lot of super fun conversations being had

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      5 months ago

      By that same logic, the customers are also at fault because the requirement has been in the terms of service since day 1.

      Not taking sides obviously this sucks, but blaming Arrowhead seems arbitrary.

      I think the most likely outcome is one of:

      1. Sony pays to reimburse people who lost access
      2. Sony pays to reimburse anyone who demands a refund
      3. Sony removes the requirement entirely
      4. Nothing happens

      edit: #3 it is apparently https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1787331667616829929?t=NhwAEm4fGpVJj-UyI1lrXA

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        5 months ago

        If you and I negotiated a software project, and I failed in one of the requirements for the project, causing third parties to lose money because of that. I’m definitely at fault. The third parties are not privy to our conversation, and therefore are not responsible for any obligations I might have to the first party.

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    5 months ago

    He “doesn’t have the final say” because before any of this, before the game even released, Arrowhead signed a contract that stipulated PSN requirement.

    He knew from day one that there was a PSN requirement. He has admitted as much, which is nice, but it still amounts to a bait and switch.

    Also, to all the people who are like “Knowing where the PSN actually is available is the Publishers job!!!”

    I reiterate: Arrowhead signed a contract. This contract would include this kind of information. This information was not hidden from him or anyone at Arrowhead. He is being somewhat commendable by being honest, but the reality is Arrowhead made the choice to sign the contract and accept that they would only be selling to PSN customers. Despite knowing this, they disabled PSN requirements because they hadn’t worked out all the bugs before release. He made his own bed here and I’m sick as living fuck of people blaming it all on Sony.

    Sure, Sony sucks, but this is just stupid. It’s called “Not reading your fucking contract or doing due diligence for the people who paid for your product and then kicking the can to the people you signed a contract with.”

    @TachyonTele@lemm.ee nailed it: This dude is in over his head.