• Lemmchen@feddit.org
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    Okay, sorry, but why do you think black people should have the monopoly on speaking AAVE? Am I not allowed to speak British English, because I don’t live in the UK? Pardon my ignorance, I don’t have contact to many black Americans, but this seems ridiculous to me.

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      11 hours ago

      British people in general are not oppressed by the general populace of most countries/the world.

      The history of the world is white people, including and especially Britain taking what isn’t theirs and doing what they want with it whilst those who have had everything taken from them or in many cases had many of those things killed and destroyed are ridiculed, locked up, not provided what they need to live and are extremely disenfrachised.

      All they want is something that is theirs to stay theirs after all this, but nope, colonisers continue to take it, tell them it sounds ridiculous when they say or do it and then lock them up or worse for the ‘privelege’.

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        British people in general are not oppressed by the general populace of most countries/the world.

        Okay, let me rephrase this. Am I not allowed to speak Jiddisch, just because I’m not Jewish?

        All they want is something that is theirs to stay theirs

        That doesn’t work with culture or language. It’s simply impossible. In fact it’s the opposite around. These things become more valuable the more people you can share them with.

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          Great question, I went and asked a Jewish friend about this and she said that Yiddish isn’t really widely spoken any more. However most people who do speak it as a first language would be extremely flattered that someone who isn’t Jewish is trying to learn it.

          However, she also said that comparing AAVE to Yiddish is absurd because of how different the circumstances are in that people aren’t actively taking Yiddish phrases as their own without caring about the culture they come from.

          As for the rest of your post, it absolutely possibly, I and many others do so every day because that language and culture isn’t mine nor theirs to use, take etc.

          Also cultural exchange isn’t what happens when people take something, but when it’s freely given. Which black people keep saying it isn’t but people do not care about them nor their needs, culture or other such things, so it remains a problem.

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            However, she also said that comparing AAVE to Yiddish is absurd because of how different the circumstances are in that people aren’t actively taking Yiddish phrases as their own without caring about the culture they come from.

            Well, we use quite a lot of Jiddisch words here in Germany, but I can guarantee you almost nobody even knows those are Jiddisch words, despite what their ancestors have done to the Jews.

            because that language and culture isn’t mine nor theirs to use, take etc.

            Okay, to me that just sounds like bullshit. You can’t dictate how other people are allowed to behave. You also can’t avoid it. It people are positively impressed by words or actions, they’ll copy them, no matter whether you allowed them or not. There’s no copyright for culture (thank goodness).

            Maybe I’m just entirely insensitive to the topic and making an ass out of myself, but to me (an ignorant) this seems like totally made up nonsense.

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              Well, you said it and I’m tired of explaining what actual black people who we both should be listening to have said, what they’ve been through etc.

              I’m tired of running around doing all this work asking people, paying attention whilst you and people like you just pontificate in the comments and possibly continue taking things whilst people suffer.

              So I’m done with this conversation.

              Hope you come around eventually, but I’m not holding my breath.

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      I don’t have contact to many black Americans…

      Then take our fucking word for it. We live this. Listen to us.