I thought the game was pretty okay. The romance with the detective lady was a little disappointing. The difficulty fell off a cliff pretty early on as a mage with life drain.
The arc with whatstheirface and their mother not accepting them seemed pretty plausible to me. I’ve got a friend going through something like that now. Seeing something like that in media is meaningful to people.
The loyalty mission prompt was kind of meh. I can see that they wanted loyalty missions, but it felt like they struggled to fit them in.
Overall it wasn’t quite the game I wanted, but it wasn’t bad.
Ya people play video games to escape these politics. Glad to see this game fail miserably
Ya people play video games to escape these politics.
Speak for yourself
“People play Dragon Age to escape politics” lmao good one
They don’t play it to be lectured on politics that’s for sure. The sales speak for themselves lol
The game is bad because of bad writing not because of politics.
BG 3 is even more “woke” and it’s great.
The game is bad because it’s repetitive and just not fun to play, which are design flaws.
Woke is fine if it doesn’t break immersion. In BG3 it feels like part of the in game universe. In dragon age it feels like it was just forced in like “hey look how progressive we are” and it’s just very tiresome
It reminds me of the runescape pride parade. The whole community was mad not because they are anti gay it’s just not a place for blatant real life political stuff when we are all playing for the sole purpose of escaping real life
Things that break immersion for some gamers:
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Main character isn’t a white cishet male
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NPCs that don’t reinforce the primacy of white cishet males
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Acceptance of non-cis/het people in a story involving fantasy creatures that is otherwise totally believable, well-written, and, above all, where only this scene is clumsily delivered (and not the fact the supporting character’s hat appears to be a folded bird)
No sarcasm in the third point at all.
Otherwise well written? This game is trash. Go replay an older dragon age if you forgot what good writing is
Do you actually just assume random people are racist for zero reason in your day to day life?
I made a mistake: point three was dripping with sarcasm, so I followed with a line meant to highlight this, but I unthinkingly wrote it in the same highly sarcastic manner.
Do you actually just assume random people are racist for zero reason in your day to day life?
I have no idea what you’re trying to infer. Please tell me this isn’t a prelude to “all racism has some truth to it”.
Like which gamers exactly are upset about non white npcs?
I don’t understand the relevance of bringing up race here unless you meant to infer that’s something which bothers me in games
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The whole game has bad dialogue. It sounds stiltet or like a bad Marvel movie no matter what they talk about.
Also, including gay characters is only political if it is something you object to. Are black characters also political?
including gay characters is only political if it is something you object to. Are black characters also political?
Exactly. I’m never even aware of these controversies until I see people whining about it online, because a gay or trans character in a video game means literally nothing to me. Why would I care?
And there are people that it does matter to; representation in media is important. So that’s just all positives and no negatives in my mind.
Also makes for more variety in plots and settings. Win/win/win.
The problem is blatant references to the real world in a fantasy game. The game literally goes out of its way to remind you that you are playing a human made video game.
With better writing this wouldn’t be a problem, I agree
So it sounds like the problem with the game is shitty writing. Not anything about it being “political.”
Breaking the fourth wall, and/or getting meta is nothing new to video games (or like, literally any other form of media). Some people like it, some people don’t.
But that is not a political issue…
https://steamdb.info/app/1845910/charts/
About 1m estimated sales on steam, so probably 2m across all platforms, not bad - I wonder what her next project will be?
That’s not a lot for a big game like dragon age, no?
Inquisition was almost a decade ago and didn’t have a long tail. The IP isn’t as strong as it used to be tbh
DA:I sold 12 million copies. That makes it the top selling game Bioware ever had.
I said it didn’t have a long tail. I didn’t say it didn’t sell a lot of copies. Huge and critical difference, hence why I said what I said. I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make here if you understood what I wrote.
BG2 came out in 2000. It didn’t exactly have a huge sales happening in 2023 either. It was largely considered as a shelved IP. Yet BG3 came out with massive success. My point is that you have no point. DA was (I would say “is” if veilguard wasn’t such a horrible piece of shit) a strong IP with or without inquisitions long tail given from past sales alone. No one ever goes and says their best selling product ever is a weak IP. It’s completely bollocks that you’re framing it as a weakening IP. Clearly BioWare thought it was strong too since they’ve spent huge amount of budget into veilguard. You’re presuming you know more than their huge investment and sales projection team about Inquisition sales.
Besides, how would you even know if Inquisition had a long tail or not? You have no figures, this game was released exclusively on ea platform at first and continued to be for a long time until it was finally released on steam. I know, because I remember begrudgingly buying it on ea origin. Steam’s public data in this is hardly a meaningful pie. My 12m Inquisition data on sales was their Sept 2024 release info. Which I assume BioWare released to imply a long tail and and continued popularity to get more sales into veilguard. But let’s not assume.
Btw, I didn’t say you said it didn’t have a lot of sales either.
That is a lot of words to argue with me about what I meant even though I’m telling you what I mean. A long tail is a very specific thing. If you would like me to elaborate further on that point and explain the term to you I will but I assume you know what it means.
Your example also isn’t a good parallel for a number of reasons I’m happy to elaborate on if you really want to dig your heels in here for some odd reason.
You are indeed very grumpy. You seem to want to fight. At no point have you asked me to elaborate or explain. You just want to prove me wrong about…something.
Btw, I didn’t say you said it didn’t have a lot of sales either.
You responded basically just saying the number of sales. It seemed like your point was “it sold a lot.” I’m not sure how else I was supposed to take it.
Probably not what they wanted, no.
