I’m very anti-rootkit anticheat on PC, because it’s a PC, and I think it should be literally impossible for customers to consent to it. But consoles are an entirely different beast, and not having control is the point of what you’re buying. I have no issue with blocking this shit there.
I wish it didn’t block you from playing online without an update, though. Just make it optional for a week. Then I can let it update in the background whenever. Sure, declining to update now would limit me to only matching with others that haven’t yet and risk of cheats, but it’s better than not playing.
Luckily my internet has been upgraded so it doesn’t take as long but sometimes it was a 20 to 30 minutes wait and ps+ always fails to do it in sleep mode in advance. As a dad with young kids, that 30 mins is my whole play time.
Yes, I’ve checked multiple times on both my ps4 and ps5. If it goes a few days, it’ll do it itself. Day of update, it doesn’t. It could be a time zone thing as I’m in Australia, so perhaps the release time is just close to work finish time, whereas for others it might be night time.
No one is choosing “yes, I think installing this malware is a reasonable thing to do”. Ignoring that the reality is that they don’t communicate it and no one knows, which means every single person involved should be in a prison cell until the end of time, they would be abusing their market position to get that consent.
It’s the entire reason every EULA term is thrown out every time. It’s not possible for a consumer to actually form a contract because of the imbalance of power.
No, I know with certainty that it’s fucking malware, that it’s a massive security hole, and that there is abundant precedent that customers inherently cannot consent to unreasonable EULA terms.
There’s a reason that no abusive EULA term has ever been accepted or enforced by courts. The idea that all that shit is automatically ignored, but somehow consenting to extremely invasive malware is OK is completely batshit.
“He consented to me stabbing him dude, I dont get what the deal is. What, do you hate free will? He said it was okay to stab him. Get your hands off me, you cant take me to jail he coNSENTED, HE CONSENTED!!!”
This is to block cheating shit, right?
I’m very anti-rootkit anticheat on PC, because it’s a PC, and I think it should be literally impossible for customers to consent to it. But consoles are an entirely different beast, and not having control is the point of what you’re buying. I have no issue with blocking this shit there.
I wish it didn’t block you from playing online without an update, though. Just make it optional for a week. Then I can let it update in the background whenever. Sure, declining to update now would limit me to only matching with others that haven’t yet and risk of cheats, but it’s better than not playing.
Luckily my internet has been upgraded so it doesn’t take as long but sometimes it was a 20 to 30 minutes wait and ps+ always fails to do it in sleep mode in advance. As a dad with young kids, that 30 mins is my whole play time.
Are you sure you have it set right? I haven’t waited for an update once since buying my PS5 in early November.
Yes, I’ve checked multiple times on both my ps4 and ps5. If it goes a few days, it’ll do it itself. Day of update, it doesn’t. It could be a time zone thing as I’m in Australia, so perhaps the release time is just close to work finish time, whereas for others it might be night time.
Why? It’s their computer. Shouldn’t people be able to do with their own machine whatever they please?
Because it’s not consent.
No one is choosing “yes, I think installing this malware is a reasonable thing to do”. Ignoring that the reality is that they don’t communicate it and no one knows, which means every single person involved should be in a prison cell until the end of time, they would be abusing their market position to get that consent.
It’s the entire reason every EULA term is thrown out every time. It’s not possible for a consumer to actually form a contract because of the imbalance of power.
Got it. You just think that you should be unilaterally making decisions for other people
No, I know with certainty that it’s fucking malware, that it’s a massive security hole, and that there is abundant precedent that customers inherently cannot consent to unreasonable EULA terms.
There’s a reason that no abusive EULA term has ever been accepted or enforced by courts. The idea that all that shit is automatically ignored, but somehow consenting to extremely invasive malware is OK is completely batshit.
The only thing unreasonable here is that you think you have room to decide what other people do with their own hardware.
Users aren’t the ones who are getting control of their system with pieces of shit defending fucking malware.
How so? Users consciously choose to install (and keep installed) these programs. Why should your opinion matter?
“He consented to me stabbing him dude, I dont get what the deal is. What, do you hate free will? He said it was okay to stab him. Get your hands off me, you cant take me to jail he coNSENTED, HE CONSENTED!!!”