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    11 months ago

    There’s a single upside down / dark place / distortion of the real world in the first game. It has ZERO resemblance to EEAAO. You would know that, if you were capable of remembering what you knew before you played the second game.

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      11 months ago

      The whole shtick is writing becoming real creating multiple realities and you do realize Control with its Alan Wake dlc and Quantum Break exist along with American Nightmare and the DLCs for AW1.

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        The whole shtick is writing becoming real

        ftfy there is no creating multiple realities in the first game whatsoever. There is a dark place that Thomas Zane is trapped in, and there’s a normal world that Alan is in that he’s twisting and changing with his writing. Nothing in the mainline DLCs that got remastered suggest otherwise.

        Control takes place presumably in the same normal universe as Alan Wake.

        Quantum Break could potentially take place in the same universe but is not cannon as Remedy doesn’t own the rights to it and also doesn’t deal with multiple worlds in any way shape or form, just time jumping.

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          The Signal dlc is Alan going crazy in the dark place trying to write his way out.

          Remedy considers Quantum Break and Max Payne explicitly Canon.

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            11 months ago

            Yeah, it is, the Dark Place is not necessarily a different universe and there is only a single dark place. It is not similar to EEAAO

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              11 months ago

              The Dark Place is considered a different reality and established as such in Control by having it’s own Door in the Ocean view motel.

              It’s the swirl.

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                Your reasoning is circular. You’re saying that we know the doors go to a different universe because one goes to the dark place, when we’re discussing whether or not the dark place is in a different universe.

                There’s nothing about the doors in the Oceanview motel that suggest they go to different universe. As far as we know they go to different locations within the same reality, or potentially to the astral plane. The only ones we go through are the ones that go to the Bureau and ones that go to the dark place.

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                  11 months ago

                  If you somehow played the remedy games and didnt also notice that Alan Wake wrote the Max Payne games which exist too idk what to say.

                  Go back and replay you somehow missed everything.

                  From the fan wiki description of the motel:

                  "The Oceanview Motel & Casino is a Place of Power connecting between various different locations. The Federal Bureau of Control theorizes it to be a gateway to alternate dimensions and Thresholds. "

                  Here’s a reddit thread from 2 years ago with the same conclusions. https://www.reddit.com/r/controlgame/comments/q8gtz5/what_really_is_the_oceanview_motel/

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                    Go back and reread your own comment where you missed the part that explicitly states that at best, characters in the game theorize that it could connect alternate dimensions and thresholds, though once again, the alternate dimensions seen in control are dimensions like the Astral Plane, not an alt universe like EEAAO.