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    Can we please also mandate landlords to update appliances in rental units if they’re not footing the electric/gas bill? So tired of paying obscene rates for inefficient appliances that I have no control over.

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      In the case of hot water heaters, they need to replace them every 20-30 years as they corrode, which means that the old one will leak and create expensive water damage if not replaced. They’ll buy what’s on the market, which means ones that meet the new standards.

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        20 to 30 years? Maybe if your very diligent at replacing the zinc anode every 3 years. Most only last 10 years.

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      Since last year I think there is a law like that in France. For renting an apartment it need to be audited to get an energy performance certificate.

      If the performance is too low (low insulation, inefficient heating system …) then the apartment can’t be rented, or if it is rented the judge can allow the renter not to pay rent until the renovations have been done by the landlord to bring the performance to an adequate level.

      The minimum performance level is going up every few years until 2030 or something like that.

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    The new rules would shift most new electric water heaters to heat-pump technology, which typically uses less than half the amount of electricity that many older models use.

    I know one very specific person that will be delighted by the news!

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    I got my heat pump installed two weeks ago and I am LOVING it.

    I had gas previously, and I hated having to organise the gas company to come and switch the bottles every few months.

    200L of hot water does my family of 3 just fine.

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    One note for anyone getting ready to switch to a heat pump water heater themselves: the fuckers are pretty loud. Make sure it’s somewhere where the noise won’t bother you when it’s installed.

    Newer models are getting quieter but the damn things are almost as loud as a small, modern window air conditioning unit when running.

    Mine was installed right in the dead center of my house. Works great but I have to close several doors to not hear it at night (and I have it set up to mostly run overnight, though in someone else’s situation it might be possible to have it run while everyone is out of the house at work or some such instead).

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      My heatpump is outside with the heat buffer inside. One can’t really hear if it’s running from maybe five meters away, unless it’s a very quiet evening.

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      That’s not my experience living here in Japan with one. Might be different makers/standards/requirements per country, though.

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    Hmm, I couldn’t find anything about tankless heaters. I absolutely love that I never run out of hot water, especially after my wife takes her shower.

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      Per the actual rule:

      As discussed in section II.B.3, DOE is finalizing standards for all consumer water heaters, with the exception of gas-fired instantaneous water heaters, in this Final Rule.

      So there has been no change to the rules for tankless heaters.

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        Believe It or not there are electrical tankless heaters. I actually installed one not too long ago because it made sense in a very odd application.

        Mostly they’re a terrible idea though.

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          Yeah, they’re pretty rare and almost never the best option. I don’t think I’ve actually encountered one.