• nature@slrpnk.net
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    We could garden and farm by ourselves and the communities we can make, staying as close to nature as possible, without tilling, irrigating, or using chemicals, and by using mulch and some native plants instead.

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    This legislation may have gone down better if the EU wasn’t simultaneously planning to put more Environmental Protection Laws on their own farmers while opening up their market to South American farmers! Even setting aside the food security and job issues this would create in Europe how do you overlook the fact that shipping all of that food from South America to Europe is bad for the environment?

    To become a “Carbon Neutral Continent” the EU was essentially trying to do the same with South America and Food that the West has done with China and Bulk Manufacturing…keep its own hands clean by outsourcing the mess to somewhere else.

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      Exactly. If farmers were better off atm, it probably wouldn’t be such a big issue for them. Traditional farmers are quickly dying out where I live. They have to opt for use of pesticides, mass production of meat and other crap to even make a living. Either that, or some lucky few get enough customers that buy their products at a high premium.

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      I think carbon footprint calculations should really include imported carbon. My “electronic device” was manufactured in China. The carbon emitted in its manufacture should follow the product to me, as I am the reason it was manufactured.

      People blaming China and other countries that manufacture a significant amount of products with relatively dirty power are really just shirking the blame. When imported carbon is considered, the US and Canada are the worst polluters per capita.

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    I live in a farming community in Saskatchewan, Canada. It’s really mind blowing how many farmers don’t give two shits about climate change. They’re really not unlike heavily profit-driven companies just looking for next quarter gains, completely oblivious to other longer term factors that might be detrimental to their business.

    It’s sad in a way. This is their livelihood, and rather than adapt to the risk to bring some sort of long term sustainability, they’re just looking for that next brand new model of truck to buy when harvest comes in this year.

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      5 years minimum, they’re going to protest again against insurance companies because their rates arw going to be on the roof.

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      I live in a farming community in Saskatchewan, Canada.

      Me too. I’ve talked to a few retired farmers and a couple of active farmers who just shake their heads at all the nonsense, but I would say that you are generally correct.

      I know that zero-tillage and high-cut stubble goes a long way to reducing erosion, but I can’t help thinking that they’ve picked the wrong time to get rid of all the tree rows.

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      “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” - Upton Sinclair

      The myth of the humble farmer or small holder living in harmony with his land is as bullshit as the myth of the noble savage. The vast majority of farmers see the planet as a resource to make money from. If they take any heed to local conditions, they think of it in tragedy of the commons style. For instance, in many places around the world, the aquifers irrigating farmland have less than 20 years before they’re emptied. Local farmers are aware. They take it as a warning to pump as much water as possible as fast as they can, because if they don’t take the water and turn it into profit, someone else will, and the water will still be gone.

      And that’s not even getting into how these brutal exploitative farming methods are what allowed the Earth’s population to balloon to a unsustainable 8 billion and ravage the land and devour resources of every sort.

      The vast majority of farmers are the enemy of the planet. In my more green authoritarian moments, I envision nationalizing every acre and setting up eco villages of subsistence farmers populated by the poor of our cities and worked by former corporate middle management reduced to serfdom. No one should own whole square miles of farmland. Not even farmers.

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      Where I live, way down South in the USA, the general attitude is God isn’t going to let this happen. Most of my neighboring towns are projected to be under water in the next two decades, tops. But God said he wouldn’t destroy the earth with floods again…

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        Could always point out that God isn’t the one destroying the earth with floods.

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          I tried. Have you spent time in conversation with maga and q-adjacent personalities? I maybe changed some perspectives of one. If so, I’m very grateful for both his and my sake. I’ll continue to carry the message, but at some point, you move on to the next one, you know?