• mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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    9 months ago

    Ban this entire business model.

    Nothing inside a video game should cost real money. It’s a scam. Games make you value arbitrary nonsense - that is what makes them games. Attaching a dollar value to that manipulation is instantly unethical.

    This exploitation started in “free” mobile trash and is now in full-price flagship titles. It’s in subscription MMOs. It’s in single-player games. Publishers can shove it in after-the-fact, at little cost and less risk. You were never going to shop your way out of it. It is the dominant strategy.

    If we allow this to continue, there will be nothing else. Only legislation will fix this.

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        9 months ago

        People should be able to buy games without getting put in a vise, god dammit! Everyone gets less and worse and has less money! There is no upside to this shit, unless you’re the one sucking on the wallet-siphon.

        Nobody’s gonna take your precious fucking vidya. This is about a business model. Precisely nothing needs to change, in terms of the game part of a game. The problem is naked greed. Stop flipping out and hurling insults like “stop gouging money” is what you think constitutes censorship.

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          9 months ago

          If you don’t like it, don’t play it. Simple as. The government has no place telling private citizens what games they can buy or sell.

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            Banning scams is absolutely the government’s job.

            This business model is a scam.

            Buying and selling is what I want, but it’s not what these assholes offer - they are taking money in exchange for fuck-all. For “gems.” For time on a clock they made up. For a chance to get a ticket to run a dungeon to roll drops that might give you a thing that’s already in the game you’re playing.

            Horse armor was perfectly ethical, relative to this abuse. That’s how bad this is. It is neither a good nor a service. It is fundamentally not an acceptable thing to charge any amount of money for.

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                  Your argument fucking sucked because it entirely ignores the definition of a scam. How exactly can a transaction where all parties enter with full knowledge of the terms be considered a scam?

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      9 months ago

      Just don’t buy them lol

      There are so many games without microtransactions you could only play games that were released prior to 2024 and you’d be occupied your whole life.

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        9 months ago

        So what if new movies need an anal probe? There’s lots of old movies.

        This is a scam.

        This is an abuse, for money. For a lot of money. It’s so profitable that “just don’t buy it!” was never going to work. This is the dominant strategy - it is infecting everything. Nothing inside a video game should ever cost real money, but every game that matters is liable to demand thousands of your actual dollars. ‘Just play Tetris lawl’ is an aggressive denial of a global problem.

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          There are plenty, plenty of games that “matter” that respect players and don’t rob them blind of their money or their time with arbitrary grind bullshit.

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                “This is spreading to everything.” “It’s not in everything yet.”

                Yeah. That’s what spreading means.

                Do you think this problem vanishes if it only infects 90% of games? You gonna tut and scold over this growing abuse, which you acknowledge is an abuse, so long as there’s one game somewhere that didn’t choose an invalid money-sucking business model? “Lol?”

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                  It’s not anywhere close to everything. There are far more quality games that don’t do anything like it than quality games that do. It’s primarily the same AAA shovelware that’s also terrible for 50 other disastrous design decisions and isn’t actually playable regardless of the business model.

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      Replies so far:

      ‘Why’d you say it’s in every game ever?’ Didn’t. ‘But why are you lying though?’

      ‘Just don’t buy it!’ It’s a scam. ‘Just don’t get scammed!’

      This topic invites the dumbest bickering. People hear “game” and “law” and lose their damn minds. Guys: bus-i-ness mo-del. The games themselves will be fine. The problem is the business. They take your money wrong.

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    9 months ago

    As gross as the business model is, a lawsuit alleging that it’s even possible that a customer thought they were buying anything other than progress for that specific version of that specific game is so obscenely fraudulent that every lawyer involved should be disbarred.

    “Pay for progress” shouldn’t be legal, but it is, and there’s absolutely no legal basis for this lawsuit.

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    9 months ago

    God, Take-Two is probably the scummiest, dumbest, and greediest game publishing company around. I know that most companies of this type are appalling, like Activision/Blizzard, Ubisoft, or EA, but I feel that they’ve fallen to the point where it’s expected to be bad. Take-Two has been, in my opinion, just as shitty in forever, but the success of GTA and RDR2 makes them slip people’s minds completely.