I would never let some random anticheat code have kernel access. Games are demanding something crazy, and users are stupidly letting them get it.
Kernel-level anti cheat is spyware, say it with me everybody. Complain on steam about it. Post this nonstop. This standard is NOT OK and needs to change and that’s the only way it might.
Why complain on Steam? If I remember correctly, League of Legends is downloaded through its own installer and it’s completely separate to Steam
It used to be on Steam
The first time I installed Vanguard, for the Valorant beta, it decided to disable my mouse and keyboard on each boot.
Well, you can’t cheat if you can’t do anything
This is why I absolutely refuse to install Valorant (and now LoL) - I could somewhat understand if an anticheat refused to boot up the game in question if something triggered it, but it going massively outside of its scope and wantonly disabling or killing other processes is just nuts to me.
To be fair, if they were typical RBG mouse and keyboard, and you used the brands software to change their settings, it blocked that software. Those programs were absolute dog shit in terms of security. I have no idea if it forced them to make better software, or Riot just started to allow them. Regardless it’s all pointless because Vanguard has been defeated. Imagine making ring 0 anticheat that loads on boot, and it still isn’t good enough, fucking LoL pun intended.
Both had optional software, and I only used the keyboard. The software didn’t have to be running for either to work, it was only to configure it and then it wrote the configuration to onboard memory. It was the generic mouse and keyboard input drivers provided by Windows that was blocked and it affected a pretty significant number of users.
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Someone is having me “fix their pc” to work with it and they understand the problem but say “i only play a little” and “it’s really important to me”
They asked about getting a separate computer just for the game
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What stops consumers with bricked PCs from claiming the max amount in small claims? That would drain funds quick
Wow, who could have anticipated that kernel-level anti-cheat was a bad idea? It’s like people haven’t been warning that giving an increasing number of programs that level of access might be a Bad Idea.
Even ones like easy anticheat have given me problems where if a game didn’t exit properly my whole system got bogged down and required a restart.
Others simply dubbed it “malware” and declared they would be quitting League until the program stopped breaking PCs.
Silly that malware is okay once it stops interfering with your day to day
I loved the way CS:GO1 had an anticheat program called Overwatch. If you are experienced enough and a trusted user, you can review games that players have reported and ban the cheaters if you deem them cheating. I don’t know if csgo2 has this but I haven’t seen it so far.
what about making actual authoritative servers?
that would break most cheats except *-botsalso there’s usually no need to replicate the entire game state on all clients, some details like movements of players out of view can be omitted (ofc this doesn’t apply to lol but whatever)
